I got my stuff together and I moved to Arkansas.

In defense of my southern brethren, we do things a little differently in the

South. Well, slowly, why rush it's so lightly. It's so hot.

Hello and welcome to best case worst case. This is Jim Clemente, former New York City prosecutor, retired FBI profiler and writer producer on CBS's criminal minds.

And with me today in the studio is hi everybody. It's francey hakes former state and federal prosecutor live in the studio with Jim Clemente Jim.

I think today's the day that I dream about. Oh really? I get to interview you about one of your cases or should I say interrogate or even cross examine?

Well, we'll see about that. And we'll have to test your skills. Oh, okay. That's the sort everybody Jim is throwing down the gauntlet. I pick it up. Let's do this.

Go for it. So I assume that means Jim that you have a case. I mean you've worked a couple of cases in your career. Right?

Two or two. So do you have a case that you think would be interesting and engaging for our listeners?

So francey. Oh, my cases are interesting and engaging for our listeners. That's absolutely true. And they're interesting and engaging for me.

Although we have recently dropped our interviews with your brother Tim. And let me just say Jim, if I may throw down the gauntlet, Tim is an amazing storyteller.

He's also a lunatic. Come up lead. No holds bar lunatic. That's true. That's true. So where were you in your career when this case that you're going to talk about today happens?

It was pretty early in my career. And I was in the New York office of the FBI. Of course, I had been a prosecutor already and had been an agent on the bank robbery and violent crime squad.

And then did some serious long term undercover operation. And that took me through three years on the commodity exchange.

Yeah, I don't think any of us will ever forget James Dean Galenti. Okay. Well, in case you haven't listened to those episodes, you can go back and listen to them. But it was shortly after that.

This case came to me. And so where were you located in the country? I know you worked in several different offices.

Yeah, I was in the New York office at the time when I got the call. And so were you on the bank robbery squad or violent crime squad?

No, I was on a white collar squad at the time. White collar. So things like insider trading, financial crimes, fraud.

That was the squad that did the major case that I was undercover on for three years.

Okay. So you're in the New York office. You have finished your undercover, your long term undercover operation. And this case comes in.

Where were you when the case came in?

Well, I actually got in my car Friday evening about 6 p.m. And I'm leaving the office. Now anybody who actually worked in the New York office knows that it takes sometimes about 30 to 40 minutes to get to your car.

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