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Rebuttal

76: The Bloody Telephone Booth (Legal Urban Legends pt. 2)

Rebuttal

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🗓️ 28 May 2026

⏱️ 31 minutes

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(WATCH THIS EPISODE ON YOUTUBE) In 1986, President Ronald Reagan gave a speech describing this plaintiff as "outrageous," "absurd," and "loony". His name was Charles Bigbee, and his leg had been torn from his body. This is Bigbee v. Pacific Telephone & Telegraph, Co., et al. (1983)—the story of a drunk woman, a telephone booth, and the most famous "frivolous" lawsuit of the 1980s. Enjoy. *** Shop SKIMS Fits Everybody collection at http://www.skims.com/rebuttal #skimspartner *** MERCH STORE IS LIVE! Shop Reb Masel and Rebuttal Pod merch: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://rebmasel.shop/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠CLICK HERE⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to PREORDER Reb's book: The Book They Throw At You—A Sarcastic Lawyer's Guide* To The Unholy Chaos of Our Legal System, *God No, Not Actual Legal Advice *** Follow @RebuttalPod on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Twitter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠! Follow @Rebmasel on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TikTok⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Twitter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠! *** 00:00 - Intro 00:16 - Case Begins 01:02 - THE INCIDENT (1974) 05:35 - Bigbee's Bills 09:02 - REAGAN'S SPEECH (AND VENDETTA) (1986) 15:52 - THE LAWSUIT & CLAIMS 20:19 - CA Supreme Court & Chief Justice Rose Bird (1983) 22:29 - SETTLEMENT & AFTERMATH 25:53 - WHAT HAPPENED TO CHARLES BIGBEE? 29:33 - Reb's Rebuttal Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Welcome back to the Roboto podcast where we break down case law, comedy, and chaos in the legal field.

0:05.9

Last week, we covered all of the true excruciating details from the McDonald's hot coffee case,

0:11.7

formerly known as the 1994 case of Lebeck v. McDonald's restaurants.

0:16.2

This week, we take on Bigby versus Pacific Phone and Telegraph from 1983.

0:23.0

In 1986, consumer groups brought several victims to testify before Congress in an attempt

0:28.4

to clear the record regarding their cases. One was Charles Bigby, whose case was repeatedly

0:33.8

distorted in public speeches by President Reagan, on national television by insurance

0:38.2

industry executives, and on editorial pages of papers like the Wall Street Journal.

0:42.9

Charles Bigby testified, quote, I believe it would be very helpful if I could talk briefly

0:47.5

about my case and show how it has been distorted, not only by the president, but by the media

0:52.7

as well. That is probably the best way to show

0:55.0

that people who are injured due to the fault of others should be justly compensated for the

0:59.0

damages they have to live with for the rest of their lives. These are the facts. Late on the night

1:04.1

of November 2nd, 1974, Charles Bigby left his job at the LA City Hall where the 33-year-old worked

1:09.1

as a night shift custodian from 4 p.m. to

1:11.0

midnight. Bigby was a native of Dayton, Ohio. At the time of the accident, Bigby had been in Los Angeles for about 10 years. When he first came to town, Bigby wound up living in Englewood on the advice of a cab driver. He got into his car and drove to his neighborhood convenience store, fortune liquor at 2208 Century Boulevard. At the time, Bigby lived at 3306 West 108th Street

1:28.8

about a mile away. He had lived no further than five miles from Fortune liquor in the prior

1:33.2

10 years. At Fortune, he bought a newspaper and a loaf of bread. Approximately 20 minutes

1:38.0

after midnight, 33-year-old Bigby having finished his shopping, left the store and stopped

1:42.1

at the telephone booth just outside to make a telephone call to his girlfriend, Sheila Croxton. This was Charles' custom. He hoped to be invited over. Sheila lived nearby. If Sheila was not awake or not amenable, Bigby would go home instead. I'm choosing to believe this is romantic. If they were just a hookup, then fine, but I'm choosing, I'm choosing to believe what I want to believe. Even at midnight, there

2:01.5

were several people in the store and in the parking lot. Outside Fortune, there were two telephone

2:05.9

booths. He chose the one not occupied. This booth was located near the wall of the store on the sidewalk

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