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Hello and welcome to another episode of the World War II podcast I'm Angus Wallace

way back in episode four of the podcast I talked to Andrew Panton about the Lancaster bomber.

Andrew, if you recall, is the pilot of the Lancaster,

just Jane here in the UK.

Whilst chatting, the role of the flight engineer came up. I had no clue what they actually did.

I wasn't aware that they worked in tandem with the pilot to fly the plane.

Ever since I've been on the lookout for someone to talk to about the role.

If you do a search in Amazon, you'll discover how overlooked they seem to have been in the historiography.

So joining me today is Colin Pateman. Colin

specialises in writing about the RF. Earlier this year he released his

latest book, Fuel, Fire and Fear, the REEF Flight Engineers at War.

But before we get to that, I'd like to say a big hello to all new loyal listeners of the show who recently signed up as patrons.

You guys really do help keep the show going. I have a copy of David Fletcher's British

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