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Dolls of Our Lives

76: Oh Captain, She's Captain: Changes for Caroline

Dolls of Our Lives

Allison Horrocks and Mary Mahoney

Society & Culture, History

4.91.1K Ratings

🗓️ 15 November 2021

⏱️ 67 minutes

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Summary

At the end of the sixth Caroline book, we simply must ask again: are you not impressed? While the final Caroline story does involve a lot of "smooth sailing" talk and a skiff, this is mostly a story of tiffs, set away from the shipyard. When a letter arrives from Uncle Aaron asking for Caroline's help, she feels compelled to assist at his farm. Though comfortable with a pitchfork, Caroline has to ask herself if she really has what it takes to raise a calf and protect the farm from an intruder. We talk about Caroline's last-minute scene change, her Fourth of July bash, and what really changes from her first to last story.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Okay, so Mary, do you recall the birthday of Caroline Abbott?

0:03.7

Not off the dome, no.

0:05.8

Okay, so what if I were to tell you that it is October 22nd, that that is her date of birth?

0:11.1

I mean, I would believe you.

0:12.9

On what might be considered a Caroline Abbott by Centennial of Swords,

0:17.9

I recently learned some really shocking knowledge, which is that is the date

0:22.4

that the first time Taylor Swift released an album called Red.

0:26.8

Oh my god.

0:29.5

Here's why this is important.

0:31.0

Here's why this is important.

0:32.3

If you don't believe in signs from the universe, this is not an album I was ever particularly invested in

0:38.4

because I have some, you know, complicated past with Jake Gyllenhaal.

0:42.6

Myself, just as a fan, got it.

0:46.5

My entire FIP has been people anticipating the Taylor's version of this album,

0:51.2

which comes out the day after we record, or two days after we record, I shall say,

0:56.6

by this time this is released into the world, but it first came out October 22, 2012.

1:02.6

I'm just saying, is we are never ever getting back together, given her own kind of complicated

1:08.9

relationship with the Brits, actually about the War of 1812, and a long standing misunderstanding.

1:15.3

Damn, it would actually, that's fascinating.

1:17.8

I'm just staring into space.

1:19.5

Like, what is the phrase loving you as red actually mean?

1:24.4

If you're part of the British Empire, I think you know exactly what it means,

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