If nobody turned that one steer the four times you're riding that night, you didn't get a turn in.

You just didn't get to row.

When the heck loans you $30,000 to go rodeo?

What are you talking about?

We get down, we're like, this sucks.

We're still going to do it.

I can't stand it.

So I just go up to him and I am like, is there something wrong with your brain?

So we're officially going.

Undefendable.

Yeah, that is our, that really is our management.

The name of the podcast is a flatbed podcast.

And the reason for that is.

Flatbed is like not going that happens so long.

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week's episode's undercover bosses. We had the chance to sit down with three, arguably three of the

most influential people in our industry that you might not know. You know their brands,

you know their companies, you know what they run, but to meet the people behind it, to me,

was one of the

coolest weeks of podcasts we've had. So we're calling undercover bosses. You're going to get to meet

Eddie Prefert, the general manager of Prefert. You're going to get to make Ricky Bolin, who's the general

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