Here's another installment of Grimarica goes to the Paradise Symposium in 2014 in Minneapolis, Minnesota. Enjoy and thanks for listening.

All right, we're back at the Paradise Symposium in Grimerica here and one of the great things

about being here too besides all the lectures and all

is you get to meet people in the vendor room that have written books and selling books.

I remember buying a couple CDs off of David Armstrong at 2012 UFO Congress, I believe.

And Red Pill Junkies here to join me too, and David's written a book here, messages from

the Spirit World.

And I heard Red Pill Junkie and David talking earlier today, so I wanted to have David on and Red Pill on to have a bit of a chat.

Welcome, guys. Thanks. Thanks for having me.

So, Red, you saw a video about David on, where was it again?

Yeah, on the Open Minds YouTube channel. I think it was released maybe a month ago, maybe even earlier. I can't remember. Maybe I should

it off here on mine. Yeah, it was released about a month ago,

so you probably saw it when it first came out.

And was that about your book, David, or?

No, it had to do with an experience I had when I was in my 20s in about the early

80s and I want to think it's about 1983. I didn't look at the date but my daughter was born a couple years later and I know she was born in 85 so I'm thinking it was 1983

right so and my aunt used to work at what they call the UFO Records Library, and they just kept the record of everything at McClellan Air Force Base that ever happened, sightings, you know, any files that might have pertained to you know

paranormal things around the UFOs okay and this is a McClelland Air Force Base?

Yeah, she had a civil service job there and she worked, I think it was like a GS,

that means government service rating, but she was a G.S that means government service rating but she was a civil servant actually so

you can only go so high as that she'd change the highest rating she said and took the

civil service test and when they get into a position like that they don't ever want to change that person because they don't want a whole lot of people knowing what it is that you do.

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