#758 First Responders - Joe Smarro
Mental Illness Happy Hour
Paul Gilmartin
4.8 • 6.1K Ratings
🗓️ 25 July 2025
⏱️ 113 minutes
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Joe Smarro is a Marine Corps combat veteran who trains first responders on how to properly manage and de-escalate mental health crises. He talks about the path that led him to this work, why the current system is so broken–for both civilians and first responders–and what can be done to fix it.
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| 0:55.2 | Welcome to episode 758 with my guest, Joe Smarrow. |
| 0:59.8 | This is the mental illness happy hour, a place for honesty about all the battles in our heads |
| 1:05.0 | from medically diagnosed conditions, past traumas, and sexual dysfunction to everyday |
| 1:09.8 | compulsive negative thinking. |
| 1:13.0 | The show's not meant to be a substitute for professional mental counseling, and I am not a |
| 1:17.9 | therapist. |
| 1:18.5 | You have been warned. |
| 1:20.4 | Oh, and speaking of that, Brooke, who helps me edit the show, I usually have her listen to the interviews and then give me |
| 1:32.9 | feedback on it. |
| 1:34.2 | And so I want to preface this interview with Joe with something that Brooke wrote. |
| 1:40.8 | She wrote this interview was so interesting. |
| 1:43.9 | I will say I balked a bit when I first heard him talking about who he is, and I definitely felt some type of way when he talked about the incident where, and I don't want to spoil it for you. |
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