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The Splendid Table: Conversations & Recipes For Curious Cooks & Eaters

755: Special Sauce with René Redzepi, Diep Tran, and Khushbu Shah

The Splendid Table: Conversations & Recipes For Curious Cooks & Eaters

American Public Media

Food, Arts

4.33K Ratings

🗓️ 28 April 2023

⏱️ 50 minutes

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Summary

This week, we talk about different umami-packed sauces that belong in every cook's kitchen. First, we sit with René Redzepi of Copenhagen's Noma to talk about the delicious ancient sauce, garum. Originally it's a fermented fish sauce, but his fermentation lab team has developed modern versions, including vegan ones. We chat with Diep Tran, coauthor of the Red Boat Fish Sauce cookbook, to talk about ways to use the Southeast Asian fish sauce we know today. She left us with a delicious recipe for Seared Pork Chops with Broken Rice. Then, we sit with restaurant editor at Food & Wine magazine, Khushbu Shah, to talk about the greatness that is Maggi. Whether you know Maggi as a sauce, instant noodles, or bouillon cubes, it's beloved across the entire world. 


Broadcast dates for this episode:


  • April 22, 2022 (originally aired)
  • April 28, 2023 (rebroadcast)




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0:46.1

Hey, it's Francis, and we did an episode a while ago that is just so salty.

0:53.5

I mean, I literally, because it's all about amazing salty sauces, fish sauce, garum, and yes, Maggie.

1:00.2

We get into how to use them, how they're made, and even some of their history.

1:03.7

Check it out.

1:08.1

I'm Francis Lamb, and this is The Splendid Table from APM.

1:15.9

You know, if there's one thing my time on this earth has taught me, it's to never underestimate the power of salty brown liquids.

1:25.3

Honestly, whenever I'm cooking, and it doesn't matter if it's salad or pasta, soup,

1:30.9

or stew, or a pot of beans, let alone a stir fry, whenever it tastes something and it just needs

1:36.8

a little oomph, I open my cabinet of salty brown liquids, whether it's soy sauce, fish sauce,

1:43.5

colatura, Worcestershire sauce, Ponzo or something else,

1:46.3

these seasonings, mostly fermented and all umami packed are the secret weapons in almost

1:52.3

every cook's kitchen around the world. They're so essential that you honestly can't imagine

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