You've had a dynamic where money has become freer than free.

If you talk about a Fed just gone nuts, all the central banks going nuts.

So it's all acting like safe haven.

I believe that in a world where central bankers are tripping over themselves to devalue their

currency, Bitcoin wins.

In the world of fiat currencies, Bitcoin is the victor.

I mean, that's part of the bold case for Bitcoin.

If you're not paying attention, you probably should be.

Chris Martinsen, welcome to the show, sir.

Very, very excited for this conversation.

Been a fan for years.

Well, thank you.

And thank you for developing the show and inviting me on.

I'm thrilled to be here.

Well, like I was saying, my audience and myself, we have to give you a massive thank you for hosting our crazy Uncle

Dave's year and review for many years now.

And it's one of my favorite times of the year is when Dave finally gets around to publishing

his year and review and then having a conversation with him.

Yeah.

It's always a little bit of a mad. Can you hear that, unfortunately? It's a dog. Okay. Yeah. Every year, it's such a fun thing with Dave because somewhere around November, he says, I'm not doing it. And then somewhere around mid, early December, he's like, okay, I'm doing it. And then the stuff flies in, like minute hundreds of pages and he's very very

meticulous like everything has to be referenced footnoted you know everything and uh it's always

a mad scramble but what a what a joy to host that thing it's one of my favorite i i just love

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