Welcome to the Council of Trend Podcast, a production of Catholic Answers.

Hey everyone, welcome to the Council of Trend Podcast. I'm your host, Cathergantz,

as aologist, Trent Horn. At the Council of Trend, I try a hard to not get involved in

church drama, especially involving the bishops or the Pope. There's lots of other channels

you can go to where you have people offering commentary on whether a bishop did a good

thing or a bad thing with a certain policy decision. Since a lot of people talk about that

already, I don't see a need for me to lend my voice to that discussion. I just want to show

the Catholic faith is true and respond to the common objections that lead people away from

the church, such as objections made by atheists or Protestants. I also want to defend the

churches' moral teachings that are under attack in our culture. And by the way, if you want

to help us keep doing that, please like this video and subscribe to our channel. I would

greatly appreciate it. However, I feel the need in this episode to address something related to

church drama that really worries me. I see it in comments and social media posts from Catholics

who are otherwise really faithful. They go to Mass every Sunday. They affirm the church's major

teachings. But then they say the absolute worst things about the bishops and the Pope. It's not

just mean things. It's basically an outright rejection of the bishops' authority. That's what it

sounds like when these people say, I don't care what the bishops say or the bishops are all garbage

or I don't listen to Bergo Gleo because they refuse to call Pope Francis Pope Francis. Here are

some other examples I found just by going on social media very briefly. Bergo Gleo, an apostate

and heretic cannot ban the true mass because he is not the Pope at most. He is an anti- Pope.

A lot of bishops, including the Bishop of Rome, are heretics. Unfortunately, 99.9% of the bishops

are modernists too. We all know heretics are outside the church. Perhaps Bergo Gleo is not a

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