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TFTC: A Bitcoin Podcast

#752: Why AI Stocks Are Cheap with John Tinsman

TFTC: A Bitcoin Podcast

Marty Bent

Technology

4.8804 Ratings

🗓️ 1 June 2026

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Marty sits down with John Tinsman to discuss the astronomical ROI of AI data centers, why hyperscaler CapEx has made the US economy rate-inelastic, and the brewing agricultural input crisis.

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0:00.0

You've had a dynamic where money has become freer than free.

0:10.0

If you talk about a Fed just gone nuts, all the central banks going nuts.

0:16.0

So it's all acting like safe haven.

0:18.0

I believe that in a world where central bankers are tripping over themselves to devalue their

0:23.5

currency, Bitcoin wins.

0:25.3

In the world of fiat currencies, Bitcoin is the victor.

0:29.2

I mean, that's part of the bold case for Bitcoin.

0:31.9

If you're not paying attention, you probably should be.

0:36.3

John Tinsman, welcome to the show.

0:38.3

It's a pleasure to be here, Marty. Thank you.

0:40.3

It's a pleasure to have you on such short notice, too.

0:42.3

I think we threw this together less than 12 hours ago.

0:45.3

I'm excited to have this conversation because we've had an analyst covering the AI space on quite a few times over the last year.

0:55.6

Jordi Viss are probably the most prominent.

0:57.0

I've really liked his coverage.

1:03.6

And I was telling you, before we hit record, I found some clips of you talking about your thesis and what you're doing.

1:07.2

And I said, I had to reach out to John, get him on the show. And for anybody who's unaware, John is the founder and portfolio manager of AOT

1:12.6

Invest, which trades on NASDAQ. He's also the director of procurement and investments at Twin

1:18.2

State Inc. Family Fertilizer business, which is maybe a topic we can get to later. But I think

1:23.3

really respecting your time and jumping into it.

1:30.9

I think first laying out your framework,

1:34.0

and I believe your thesis is low marginal cost, high growth,

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