#752: Why AI Stocks Are Cheap with John Tinsman
TFTC: A Bitcoin Podcast
Marty Bent
4.8 • 804 Ratings
🗓️ 1 June 2026
⏱️ 57 minutes
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Marty sits down with John Tinsman to discuss the astronomical ROI of AI data centers, why hyperscaler CapEx has made the US economy rate-inelastic, and the brewing agricultural input crisis.
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| 0:00.0 | You've had a dynamic where money has become freer than free. |
| 0:10.0 | If you talk about a Fed just gone nuts, all the central banks going nuts. |
| 0:16.0 | So it's all acting like safe haven. |
| 0:18.0 | I believe that in a world where central bankers are tripping over themselves to devalue their |
| 0:23.5 | currency, Bitcoin wins. |
| 0:25.3 | In the world of fiat currencies, Bitcoin is the victor. |
| 0:29.2 | I mean, that's part of the bold case for Bitcoin. |
| 0:31.9 | If you're not paying attention, you probably should be. |
| 0:36.3 | John Tinsman, welcome to the show. |
| 0:38.3 | It's a pleasure to be here, Marty. Thank you. |
| 0:40.3 | It's a pleasure to have you on such short notice, too. |
| 0:42.3 | I think we threw this together less than 12 hours ago. |
| 0:45.3 | I'm excited to have this conversation because we've had an analyst covering the AI space on quite a few times over the last year. |
| 0:55.6 | Jordi Viss are probably the most prominent. |
| 0:57.0 | I've really liked his coverage. |
| 1:03.6 | And I was telling you, before we hit record, I found some clips of you talking about your thesis and what you're doing. |
| 1:07.2 | And I said, I had to reach out to John, get him on the show. And for anybody who's unaware, John is the founder and portfolio manager of AOT |
| 1:12.6 | Invest, which trades on NASDAQ. He's also the director of procurement and investments at Twin |
| 1:18.2 | State Inc. Family Fertilizer business, which is maybe a topic we can get to later. But I think |
| 1:23.3 | really respecting your time and jumping into it. |
| 1:30.9 | I think first laying out your framework, |
| 1:34.0 | and I believe your thesis is low marginal cost, high growth, |
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