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The Knowledge Project with Shane Parrish

#75 Suzanne Iasenza: Rewriting Relationship Narratives

The Knowledge Project with Shane Parrish

Farnam Street

Business, Investing, Entrepreneurship

4.72.9K Ratings

🗓️ 4 February 2020

⏱️ 74 minutes

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Summary

Sex therapist Dr. Suzanne Iasenza explains how our personal narratives determine how we grow as a couple, how we communicate, even how we make love.

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0:00.0

You don't know who you are projecting onto a partner at any given moment that is still unfinished business.

0:06.9

And that's one of the reasons why it's been so much time with sexual histories, let's say.

0:10.9

Is to start to identify the narratives that rise to the surface when people are curious from the first memory of sexuality all the way to now.

0:18.2

And what are the ones that still carry so much meaning about self or other or sexuality or intimacy or trust or that still is unfinished?

0:27.4

So that with the partner, sometimes it's not your trusted partner you're making love with that night, it becomes your father.

0:45.3

Hello and welcome. I'm Shane Parrish and this is the Knowledge Project, a podcast exploring the ideas, methods and mental models that help you master the best. What other people have already figured out?

0:56.9

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1:01.4

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1:14.6

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1:21.1

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1:27.8

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1:37.9

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1:42.8

Today I'm speaking with Suzanne ISenda, a psychotherapist and sexual therapist in New York who also teaches at the Ackerman Institute.

1:50.8

This conversation took place in Suzanne's office in New York. What interested me most about talking to Suzanne was her work on narratives, the stories that we tell ourselves that shape what we see and how we behave.

2:03.0

Not only do we have a narrative about who we are as a person but we have a narrative about our partner and our relationship and even what sex should be.

2:12.0

Narratives are interesting to me because they affect all aspects of our life. If you want to understand someone you need to understand the narrative they tell themselves about themselves.

2:20.0

I was curious as how narratives affect couples and how we can change those narratives.

2:26.0

Well, we primarily talk about relationships. The lessons you apply to all aspects of our life including how to replace the narratives, how to change them when they age off.

2:35.0

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2:51.0

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