All right, welcome everyone back to dissecting popular IT nerds.

Today we have a return, kind of a big deal, IT director John Santee. Welcome back to the showman.

Really happy to have you back. For anyone that doesn't know, John, please search, find,

look for him up. Look him up. Look for him up. I can speak English on LinkedIn because he's very active.

And the reason why I'm so happy to have you back on the show is you provide so much valuable

general leadership, general management leadership information for IT directors

that is honestly a work in progress for all of us. So thanks, man.

Very happy to have you back. I appreciate it. Yeah. So we were kind of spitballing back and

forth on ideas on what we could talk, what we could talk about. And you said you have an

unapologetic personal life.

Now this unapologetic word gets thrown around a lot lately,

but why don't we just start there, man?

You know, let's go there.

What does that mean?

So for me, one of the things that I kind of came across and this so much of a work in progress,

but through my career and work and at home, that I was giving my work the better me.

It was getting the better pieces of who I was. You know, it was getting that

morning energy, the clear head, the patience, the logic, the thinking. All of that was being

given and poured into my work. But then when I came home, I was tired and mentally tired, physically tired.

And I wasn't giving the best of me back to my family once I got here.

And several years ago, I realized that was something that just needed to change.

I needed to figure out a way to flip that script

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