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Paul McKenna's positivity podcast.

Hello, this is Paul McKenna, and welcome to the positivity podcast.

My objective is to interview the most interesting people in the world,

and in the next 30 minutes, get insights and even discover how it is that they do what they do,

what makes them unique and fascinating, their success mindset,

and certainly what keeps them positive. My guest today is one of the world's most renowned

success coaches, having worked with celebrities, CEOs and royalty, an international best-selling

author. His TED talks have been viewed by millions of people. I'm talking

today with Michael Neal. My dogs are my my therapist. Like we go for walks and I tell them everything

that's wrong. And they go, dad, no, you're right. It's everybody else. It's not you. You've got this.

My teaching and coaching and writing is kind of a positivity ritual for me.

Because in putting things into words, I hear them.

My one-liner, even in high school, I think it's actually in my high school yearbook,

was the secret of success is to fall down seven times stand up eight.

I seem to be really good at helping people get their heads out of their asses. It's not a classy thing, but it's like

people are really cool, but they spend an extraordinary amount of time lost in thought.

Yeah. extraordinary amount of time lost in thought. The Positivity podcast with Paul McKenna.

Hello, Michael. Hey, nice to, nice to see you, nice to talk with you. Likewise.

So how would you describe what it is you do?

You know, we were sitting around my, Nina, my wife and Clara, one of my daughters, and

literally my best friend for 30 years, everyone was sitting around the table trying to describe

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