Bam, Jason Waller here.

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I have got an awesome guest on today.

I'm a big fan.

He's an ex-Lions player, but more importantly, he has totally made a name for himself.

He is crushing it on ESPN.

I'm a huge fan.

I know you guys are a huge fan of what he's doing as commentating

and being an ESPN analyst. Super excited. My man, Dan Arlofski, how you doing? I'm doing good, man. It's good to be on. I know we back and forth scheduling all that and being this time of the year with the draft just about here, it's good to be on with you, man. Yeah, thank you. I appreciate it. How great was last year to see the Lions finally get pretty far in the playoffs? I know that's one of your teams, if not your team. How great did that feel? It was awesome, you know, to watch that season unfold for so many different reasons. You know, people often ask me, do you have a favorite team or did you have a favorite team? And, you know, I didn't really have a favorite team growing up as a kid. And I always say, I'll always root for the lions. They're the ones who drafted me and gave me my first chance. And, you know, even though things didn't go, well, when I was there, you know, you're rooting for them. And then obviously I played with Dan Campbell. I was with Jared

golf, you know, his second year in the NFL. So there's a lot of ties to that. I'm such a fan of

the people. You know, I used to always say, man, even though we didn't win, those people showed up

and they were passionate and they beloved their Lions players. So to watch it kind of play out and into fruition and see the success that they had,

and then the wave of almost America getting behind them, it was awesome, awesome to see.

Yeah, it was really awesome because everyone with the SOL, the same old lions and

hiring Dan Campbell and all the punchlines, just for him to be a players coach, the opposite,

nothing wrong with the New England system, but look, teams evolved, players evolved, the world

evolves, right?

Sure.

And, you know, from what we had from that regime before, to that was a completely different

approach.

And it really worked.

Because we had, and I didn't, you know, I didn't get the chance to meet Caldwell.

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