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The History of Literature

749 Willing and Will-Making in the English Renaissance (with Douglas Clark) | #7 Greatest Book of All Time

The History of Literature

Jacke Wilson

History, Arts, Books

4.61.3K Ratings

🗓️ 13 November 2025

⏱️ 66 minutes

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Summary

When Hamlet, in his famous soliloquy, pondered the "dread of something after death, / the undiscovered country," he noted that such thoughts "puzzles the will." (Earlier editions of the play had this as a "hope of something after death" that "puzzles the brain." What's the significance for an Elizabethan writer (and audience) of the change from hope to dread? And from brain to will? In this episode, Jacke talks to Douglas Clark (The Will in English Renaissance Drama) about the moments of willing and will-making in English Renaissance drama, and how those moments play a crucial role in the depiction of selfhood, sin, sociality, and succession. PLUS Jacke takes a look at #7 on the list of the Greatest Books of All Time. Join Jacke on a trip through literary England (signup closing soon)! The History of Literature Podcast Tour is happening in May 2026! Act now to join Jacke and fellow literature fans on an eight-day journey through literary England in partnership with ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠John Shors Travel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Scheduled stops include The Charles Dickens Museum, Dr. Johnson's house, Jane Austen's Bath, Tolkien's Oxford, Shakespeare's Globe Theater, and more. Find out more by emailing jackewilsonauthor@gmail.com or masahiko@johnshorstravel.com, or by contacting us through our website ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠historyofliterature.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Or visit the ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠History of Literature Podcast Tour itinerary⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠John Shors Travel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. The music in this episode is by Gabriel Ruiz-Bernal. Learn more at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠gabrielruizbernal.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Help support the show at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠patreon.com/literature ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠or ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠historyofliterature.com/donate ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. The History of Literature Podcast is a member of Lit Hub Radio and the Podglomerate Network. Learn more at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠thepodglomerate.com/historyofliterature⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

The History of Literature Podcast is a member of the Podglomerate Network and Lit Hub Radio.

0:09.3

Hello, today on the podcast we talked to an expert in English Renaissance drama to understand why those

0:15.4

playwrights were so obsessed with the will in the sense of desire or determination, and in the sense of a legal

0:23.0

document that directs what should happen to property after one's death.

0:27.4

How do these concepts overlap, and why were they of such interest to such prominent writers?

0:33.6

Plus, we look at number seven on our list of the greatest books of all time.

0:38.3

And no, we're not idiots telling tales.

0:41.6

Thank you very much.

0:42.9

Hint, hint.

0:44.1

All that coming up today on the history of literature.

0:47.8

Music Okay, here we go. Welcome to the podcast, everyone. I'm Jack Wilson. I hope you are all having a good November, wherever you may be. Wills and willmaking. They're both kind of fascinating, so common to our understanding

1:13.3

of ourselves and our relationships with others that they almost disappear from view until they don't.

1:21.4

Wills as a concept. What do we mean by saying that someone willed it to happen? or when we describe someone as strong-willed,

1:30.1

or we say they have a will to power, or a will to survive, or a will to win.

1:37.2

Of course, there's the entire debate around free will. Is that how we can best understand

1:42.1

our central theological dilemma in a monotheistic world?

1:46.5

If God is good, why do bad things happen? What explains Hitler? Could it be that it's because

1:53.9

God's great gift to humanity was free will? Isn't free will what makes good things good and bad things bad? We must have a choice

2:04.8

for people to be good or bad. But what about original sin? Whose will was that? We're all sinners.

2:12.5

Did you decide that? How can we have free will if we're subject to Eve biting an apple in some

2:19.5

ancient garden? Dilemmas, dilemmas around the concept of will. And it's kind of odd that it's the same

2:26.8

word as will as in a last will in testament, or maybe that's not so odd. That is a person saying,

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