749: Coding Shopify with Anne and Trudy of Design Packs

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Wes Bos

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🗓️ 29 March 2024

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Scott and Wes are joined by special guests Trudy MacNabb and Anne Thomas from Design Packs, diving into the nitty-gritty of Shopify design. Tune in as they dissect the pros and cons, challenges, and unveil their daily toolkit for crafting stunning Shopify websites. Show Notes 00:00 Welcome to Syntax! 00:59 Who is Anne Thomas? 02:30 Who is Trudy MacNabb? 04:06 Shopify themes, how does one build a theme? 05:34 Do you have enough control with LiquidJS? 07:52 Changing components of a liquid template. 08:58 LiquidJS improving their dev tools. 09:29 LiquidJS email marketing. 10:32 Can you make your own LiquidJS methods? Too Many Tabs 11:34 How would you create a theme from scratch using modern tools? 13:30 What about local dev and live reload? Shopify Tools CLI 15:17 Is Shopify improving? 17:13 What do you hate about Shopify themes? Shopify Tools Theme Kit 18:59 Have you used Hydrogen? Shopify Hydrogen 20:09 Headless has sacrifices. 22:02 Are people building full websites in Shopify? 23:56 Apps and integrations. 25:56 Are people creating businesses around these integrations? 29:16 What are design packs? 31:26 Do you run your own servers? 31:57 How does billing work with clients? 33:18 Apps being ‘Sherlocked’. ‘Sherlocking’ Explained 35:21 Where is the data stored? 36:35 Can you make a custom UI? 38:40 What are the downsides of building apps on Shopify? 39:17 Are you expected to maintain versions? 40:46 Do you manage all the support independently? 42:01 How do you match with their existing themes? 43:54 What are the most popular blocks? 45:17 Does Shopify provide bundlers or compilers? 46:47 Shopify moving to blocks. 47:38 Living as a digital nomad. Syntax Episode 586 on Nomad Developing 49:48 A new app Anne and Trudy launched. 51:35 Limited by block size. 54:08 Sick Picks + Shameless Plugs. Sick Picks Trudy: Bar of Shampoo Anne: Alie Ward Ologies Podcast Shameless Plugs Trudy: 25% off using SYNTAX25 at Design Packs Hit us up on Socials! Syntax: X Instagram Tiktok LinkedIn Threads Wes: X Instagram Tiktok LinkedIn Threads Scott:X Instagram Tiktok LinkedIn Threads Randy: X Instagram YouTube Threads

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0:00.0	Welcome to Syntax. We got a really good episode for you today about coding with and for Shopify.
0:07.0	We've done a couple episodes on Shopify, but Shopify always amazes me that it is this entire world of people who not
0:17.2	exclusively developed for it but there's a lot of people who are like their
0:20.4	entire job is just working with Shopify themes, Shopify apps, Shopify integrations, and it's a pretty wild world, especially because e-commerce is one of the biggest industries on the internet and I always find it really
0:35.0	interesting to sort of dip into that. So I conjured up two of the smartest
0:38.7	Shopify people I know Anne Thomas and Trudy McNabb. I taught with Anne and Trudy when I was at
0:45.5	Hacker You doing part-time classes and doing boot camps and they've both been doing
0:51.9	Shopify for many many years.
0:53.3	I'll let them talk about that.
0:55.0	But welcome, and Tridi, thanks so much for coming on.
0:58.3	Thanks for having us.
1:00.0	And you can start.
1:00.8	Give us a rundown of who you are and what you do.
1:03.6	Yeah, sure.
1:05.1	So I've been a friend and developer for about 15 years now.
1:09.9	That seems a bit crazy to say, but I've been through the flash times, the like J-quarie times,
1:18.0	and then the framework era, so I feel like I've sort of seen it all.
1:21.3	And then I got into Shopify sometime around 2014 I guess I built my first
1:26.1	theme and I was working for an agency and that kind of stuff and then I actually worked for almost five years at an actual theme company. So we were building
1:36.7	themes to sell on the theme store. So it's there for five years and then left in 2020 the great resignation and yeah and then
1:48.1	started a consultancy doing store audits and then had this idea about maybe building this kind of
1:56.6	interesting app and reached out to Trudy who is brilliant and I was like
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