#748: The Bond Market Says Tick Tock with Luke Gromen
TFTC: A Bitcoin Podcast
Marty Bent
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🗓️ 20 May 2026
⏱️ 79 minutes
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Marty sits down with Luke Gromen to discuss the unsolvable U.S. sovereign debt trap, why the Fed will be forced to print money to cap yields into a new inflation spike, and how AI-driven labor disruption and the Iran-Hormuz supply shock are accelerating the end of the dollar-centric world order.
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| 0:00.0 | You've had a dynamic where money has become freer than free. |
| 0:10.0 | If you talk about a Fed just gone nuts, all the central banks going nuts. |
| 0:16.0 | So it's all acting like safe haven. |
| 0:18.0 | I believe that in a world where central bankers are tripping over themselves to devalue their |
| 0:23.4 | currency, Bitcoin wins. |
| 0:25.4 | In the world of fiat currencies, Bitcoin is the victor. |
| 0:28.4 | I mean, that's part of the bold case for Bitcoin. |
| 0:31.4 | If you're not paying attention, you probably should be. |
| 0:34.4 | Mr. Groman, where do we even start? |
| 0:39.3 | We have a big meeting in China last week. |
| 0:41.3 | We have yield curves blowing out in Japan and the UK, even here in the United States, |
| 0:47.3 | and we have this backdrop of this re-industrialization and AI build out. |
| 0:53.3 | And it's kind of hard to grasp what's going on at the same time you have this supply chain disruption |
| 0:59.2 | because of what's going on in Iran. |
| 1:02.9 | And it's been harder than ever for me to figure out where the signal is because I've been playing with AI. It's incredibly |
| 1:12.7 | powerful, made me way more productive. We're looking at yield curves. We've got a new Fed chairman |
| 1:19.4 | transitioning in and you're looking at the yield curves. It's like there's so much potential here, |
| 1:25.0 | but it feels like the the boogeyman of sovereign debt is going to throw a wrench in the plans of, of this buildout. |
| 1:35.6 | Yeah, it's, um, if you ignore what's going on with sovereign debt, everything looks pretty good, which is sort of like, other than that, how was the play, Mrs. Lincoln? That really, I think, is the economic question of the moment, |
| 1:52.8 | which is, when are they going to start printing money into an inflation spike to cap bond deals? |
| 2:03.7 | They're going to. They're going to have to. I think there is zero chance that Warsh, et cetera, Trump at all are going to come in and go, |
| 2:10.3 | you know what, 10 year yield and the bond market, you know, they're, they're, they're, they're |
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