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Podcast UFO

748. Bogna Konoir

Podcast UFO

Host: Martin Willis

Astronomy, Society & Culture, Science

4.4567 Ratings

🗓️ 8 May 2026

⏱️ 77 minutes

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Summary

Martin Willis & Dean Alioto speak with Bogna Konior, author of The Dark Forest Theory of the Internet, about the surprising connection between artificial intelligence, the internet, and the search for extraterrestrial intelligence. Drawing from the dark forest theory, she explores the idea that true intelligence may remain hidden, avoiding detection in a potentially hostile environment. The conversation covers whether the internet itself is a form of first contact, how AI may already be learning from human communication, and why advanced intelligence might choose silence over expression. This thought-provoking discussion challenges how we think about AI, communication, and the possibility that contact may already be underway in ways we do not fully understand.

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0:00.0

Oh my gosh, Rob, do you see that?

0:13.0

We've waited our entire lives for this.

0:16.0

He's so beautiful. How many people can actually say they've seen a big foot in person. I know, I know, I know. Look at how the full moon just glistens off of his majestic fur.

0:26.6

He kind of stinks. Like 50 wet dogs.

0:31.0

Wait, wait, wait. He's arching his back. I think he's about to howl.

0:48.3

No. arching his back. I think he's about to howl. We are the Brohio podcast, and we are on a never-ending quest to explore all of the unknown.

0:53.8

True crime, paranormal, demons, hauntings, aliens, UFOs, urban legends, and all of the occult.

1:02.4

We are your one-stop shop anytime you want to take a walk on the dark side.

1:07.7

You can find the Brohio podcast anywhere you download your favorite podcast. We have

1:12.2

new episodes every week. Thank you so much for listening. You could find us on Twitter,

1:17.4

Instagram, Facebook, all at Brohio Podcast.

1:26.0

Texas is well known for scorching heat, vast expanses of land, and predilection for doing things bigger.

1:36.3

But beyond big band and big trucks lies something darker, big crime.

1:51.2

On Gone Cold, Texas True Crime, we dive deep into the facts and theories of an unsolved case each week from the mysterious 1974 disappearances of Rachel Trellisa, Renee Wilson, and Julie

1:59.5

Mosley, collectively known as the Fort Worth Missing Trio,

2:03.8

to the Unthinkable, the Orange, Texas abduction and murder of four-year-old Denaria Finley in 2002.

2:12.1

To hear those and more than 350 other stories of unsolved homicides and missing persons cases.

2:19.8

Subscribe to Gone Cold, Texas True Crime, wherever you listen to podcasts. Hello and welcome to the show.

2:41.4

I'm here, jumped over for my last show.

2:44.4

This is later than we normally go, 9 p.m. on Thursday, and I'm with Bognar Kanoa.

2:49.4

Thank you so much for being here.

2:52.2

And my good friend,

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