745 - 'More Than' Versus 'Over.' Is a Hamburger a Sandwich?

Grammar Girl Quick and Dirty Tips for Better Writing

Mignon Fogarty, Inc.

Society & Culture, Education

4.5 • 2.9K Ratings

🗓️ 2 December 2019

⏱️ 16 minutes

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The AP Stylebook changed its stance on using "over" to mean "more than." Plenty of people were shocked, but they shouldn't have been. And then we debate the linguistics of whether a hamburger is a sandwich. LINKS AND SPONSORS | Learn how you can get my LinkedIn Learning course free: https://t.co/coQuXJRtrT | Waterpik: https://waterpik.com/grammar Code: GRAMMAR | Hallmark: https://hallmark.com/grammar Code: GRAMMAR | GRAMMAR GIRL EMAIL NEWSLETTER | https://www.quickanddirtytips.com/newsletters | GRAMMAR POP iOS GAME | Optimized for iPad: http://bit.ly/iPadGrammarPop | For iPad and iPhone: http://bit.ly/GrammarPopMobile | PEEVE WARS CARD GAME | https://www.thegamecrafter.com/games/grammar-girl-s-peeve-wars | GRAMMAR GIRL BOOKS | http://bit.ly/GrammarPopBooks | GRAMMAR GIRL IS PART OF THE QUICK AND DIRTY TIPS PODCAST NETWORK | VOICEMAIL: 833-214-GIRL (833-214-4475)

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0:00.0	Grammar Girl here, I'm Minion Fogarty and you can think of me as your friendly guide to
0:09.2	the English language.
0:11.2	Writing, History, Rules, and Cool Stuff.
0:14.3	Today we'll talk about some rules and some cool stuff.
0:17.4	First, what's the deal with people thinking you can't use the word over to mean more than?
0:23.6	And second, we'll debate whether a hamburger qualifies as a sandwich because there's a little
0:28.8	bit of a linguistics tie-in.
0:33.3	I recently got a listener question about a topic I haven't covered in a while.
0:38.0	Here's Andrea.
0:39.0	Hi, Minion.
0:41.2	My name is Andrea.
0:42.7	About 20 years ago my husband, Brian and I were working as reporters at a local newspaper.
0:48.0	For the style guide, they were very specific when talking about an amount of money, such
0:53.0	as more than or less than a million dollars.
0:56.9	We were not allowed to use the words over or under because they signified a position,
1:02.3	a physical position in space, like over or under a bridge.
1:06.6	Recently, I've noticed that a lot of news outlets and television shows are using the over
1:12.8	a million and under a million.
1:15.0	And I was just wondering if this was something specific to the newspaper we were working
1:20.4	at or if it's a change in style overall.
1:24.7	Thanks, Minion.
1:25.9	Love the podcast.
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