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We are so thrilled to be here with Ali Vitale. She is the capital hill correspondent for NBC news and MSNBC

And most recently she's the author of Electable why America hasn't put a woman in the White House yet and she's a dear

Friend of the pot in mutual. I'm so excited to be here

Yeah, I mean, we never talk about why there hasn't been a woman president

We need you to be here to to bring this conversation in but congrats on the book. How are we feeling after

Year spent on the campaign trail and now you have a book tour to go on

This like truly feels like a culmination of all of the work like doing 15 and 16 covering Trump watching the way gender was

manifesting there

2018 there were tons of gender lines

2018 you like a tons of Democratic women

2020 Republicans sort of play catch up a little bit there but actually make their own gains and then obviously the 2020 Democratic primary is one of the main focuses of the book but like

gender on gender on gender

There as I was reading it. I just and I'm curious if you felt this way too like we

After the primaries we really just like launched right into the really intense period of the pandemic and then the really intense period of the general election

And it wasn't until like I started reading your book that was like oh, we I haven't processed this

I have not processed that there were all those

Incredibly qualified women and we went with Joe Biden like we never really I feel like we never really had the catharsis about that

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