Welcome to the Council of Trend Podcast, a production of Catholic Answers.

Hey everyone, welcome to the Council of Trend Podcast. I'm your host, Categantz's

Apologist, Tren Horn. And today I want to share with you a debate from the archives.

Several years ago, I was invited to the University of California in Berkeley to debate

Dr. Malcolm Potts on the issue of abortion. So Dr. Potts is an embryologist, he's an abortionist,

he helped to make abortion legal in Great Britain in the 1950s and 60s. So he's been involved

in this for a long time. And I was grateful that he invited me, that his class invited me

to come and debate him. Stephanie Gray Connors has also debated him on Pines of the Quines.

And so I went there and yeah, I was just excited that these students at Berkeley were able

to hear an alternative view within their medical ethics classroom. So I thought I went very

well, it was a cool debate. And I just rediscovered it recently. I shared it with my patrons

already at TrenhornPodcast.com. And if you want early access to other bonus material,

check us out at TrenhornPodcast.com as well. So without further ado, here is my debate on abortion

with abortionist Malcolm Potts. So the format of the fact is we'll have a few,

a few more announcements and then we'll have Professor Potts discuss the safe abortion stance.

And then we'll have Mr. Trenhorn speak on the pro-life stance.

I don't like to pose discussions with abortion as a sort of boxing show.

One of the last news I've heard of your audience is that kind of debate what I want to show you

things about how we should deal with a very important and difficult issue and how we reduce

human suffering to the greatest extent. And one of the facts that we have available on this topic

and what are the different beliefs that people have.

When I was a young obstetrician in England, abortion was illegal. So I saw the suffering

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