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Hey, it's Francis. This week, we're getting back to baking with a favorite episode from a couple years ago with National Treasure Dory Greenspan.

And we talk more grains with my dear friend, Barbara Barron.

I'm Frances Lamb, and this is The Splendid Table from APM.

Hey, I'm just going to say it.

Dora Greenspan is one of the greatest cookbook writers alive.

And I'm saying that not just because her recipes are great and because she has legions of fans

who start clubs to cook through her books every week, but because she does this thing,

where she can make a completely normal, regular old cook or baker, like you or me,

feel totally at home with a recipe from a legendary French chef.

I don't know if she does it, but she does.

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