You've had a dynamic where money has become freer than free.

If you talk about a Fed just gone nuts, all the central banks going nuts.

So it's all acting like safe haven.

I believe that in a world where central bankers are tripping over themselves to devalue their currency,

Bitcoin wins.

In the world of fiat currencies, Bitcoin is the victor.

I mean, that's part of the bold case for Bitcoin.

If you're not paying attention, you probably should be.

Lauren, I, uh, I wish I didn't have to have you on the show.

We were just talking before we had record.

I spent some time with you and Keone over the years.

It was clear to me that you guys liked staying out of the limelight and just

putting your heads down and working on on samurai wallet and you've been thrust into into the

public eye and as you are forced to fight for the freedom of your husband.

And I've been thinking about this interview for a few days now.

And it's like where to start.

And I guess the best place to start is how are you?

How has this whole process been for you?

Hi. Well, first, thank you for having me on, Marty. As you said, we have known each other for for a while.

So, you know, it's nice to be speaking to have a friend in that sense. But yeah, I'd rather not be here.

I'd rather not be in this position.

It's hard.

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