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Wet Fly Swing Fly Fishing Podcast

742 | Saving the Big Hole River with Brian Wheeler: Trout Declines, Water Quality & Conservation Efforts

Wet Fly Swing Fly Fishing Podcast

Dave Stewart

Wilderness, Hobbies, Leisure, Sports

4.7530 Ratings

🗓️ 9 April 2025

⏱️ 60 minutes

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#742 Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/742   

Presented by: On DeMark Lodge

In this episode, we're headed to one of Montana's most iconic rivers — the Big Hole River. Known as one of the last strongholds for Arctic grayling and a key tributary of the Missouri River, the Big Hole is facing some serious challenges. Brian Wheeler, Executive Director of the Big Hole River Foundation, joins us to talk about declining trout populations, water quality concerns, and what's being done to turn things around.

Brian breaks down the science behind their five-year water quality monitoring project, explains how nutrient pollution and dissolved oxygen levels are impacting the river, and shares why honest, transparent data is key to protecting this watershed for future generations. We also get a peek into Brian's adventures guiding on the Big Hole and running rivers like the Grand Canyon and the Middle Fork of the Salmon.

Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/742   

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One of the last remaining strongholds for Arctic railing in the Lower 48.

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One of the three forks to the Missouri River and the headwaters of the Missouri River.

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The Big Hole has been known for many years as a special place for Montana, fly fishing,

0:16.0

and in recent years we've heard about some of the declines in brown trout populations.

0:20.0

Today we have one of

0:21.4

the key players who is working to find a solution to these changes. And after this episode, you

0:26.3

will have a clear understanding of what it will take to turn this around. This is the Webfly

0:30.5

Swing podcast where I show the best places to travel to for fly fishing, how to find the best

0:34.3

resources and tools to prepare for that big trip and what you can do to

0:37.8

get back to the fish species we all love Brian Wheeler executive director of the big hole river

0:43.1

foundation is going to take us into all the issues around the big hole river and trout

0:47.3

populations you're going to find out why and how water quality is the key here and what we

0:52.9

can do to get things changed. We also find out

0:56.2

why he submitted a petition to the state of Montana to get this stream listed for protection

1:01.0

and what the bugs can tell us about water quality in a river. Plus, we're going to hear about

1:06.0

his love for boating and boating the canyons and this epic 200 mile over 200 mile grand canyon trip he did

1:12.9

with his wife we get that story today as well here we go man doing some of the hard work out there

1:17.7

bhr f dot o rg how you doing bhr f r g how you doing bh dh dh thanks for having me yeah thanks for

1:26.5

thanks for doing this today this is going to be a good chat. We've heard a lot about you guys over the years. We've done some episodes on The Big Hole. Right now, we're currently doing an episode in a series on the Missouri because we're heading out there fishing this fall in October with on to Mark Lodge. And we're pretty excited for that because I think we're going to get some good dry fly action and get into all that. But today I wanted to really talk about some of the things that you're working on with the big whole river foundation. But before we jump into that, maybe take us back a little bit. I'm not even sure if you do any angling or fly fishing or anything. But first you know are you into any of that and then also

2:02.1

we can talk about kind of your conservation background uh sure i mean short answer is yes i that's why

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i moved to montana colorado previous to that and east tennessee previous to that i grew up in

2:13.1

northeast ohio where opportunities were pretty limited um so i kind of chased that around in the 20s, early 30s part of my life.

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