Hello,

Puyowski here. Thrill to be back with you for another Nilling a podcast.

We have a very different type of episode for you today.

Toronto and I are going to be joined by our good friend Jim Hartzel,

who is the author of multiple golf books a long time

friend of ours I was thinking about today I think he's probably one of the first

NOU listeners any of us really met in person he, he's been listening to the podcast forever.

He was one of the first members out at Sweden's Cove,

which is where we always used to run into him a million years ago.

And he is just an infectiously good guy that just puts in a good mood whenever you get to spend some time with him either, you know, digitally like we did today or in person.

Jim is also the subject of a film, a capital F film that we released this week called

When Revelation Comes, which was directed by our friend Mac Golden, who has worked with us forever. We were also lucky to have on the podcast with us today.

I would say that if you are able to do so, I would definitely recommend watching the film first.

It is now live on our YouTube channel it's pretty emotional it's a pretty

emotional journey through some pretty massive tragedy in Jim's life but I

think it also does a really good job shining a light on all the people and the places that really helped him put his life back together,

many of which we're going to give some more details on and discuss on the podcast here today.

A film is obviously pretty heavy in some spots,

but the podcast today was really, really fun.

Just kind of talking about a lot of good memories,

all the reasons why Jim loves Scotland,

all the reasons why he's always loved going there for his whole life,

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