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74. Soul Possession

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🗓️ 7 May 2012

⏱️ 28 minutes

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In a world where nearly everything is for sale, is it always okay to buy what isn’t yours?

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0:00.0

Mary Roach is a writer, a nonfiction writer, who is a bit obsessed with death.

0:13.7

But not so much the dying part of death as what comes afterwards.

0:18.4

Her first book, Stiff, is about the secret life of cadavers.

0:23.6

In her follow-up book, Spook, she goes looking for evidence of the afterlife.

0:30.0

Of particular interest is the thing we call the soul.

0:34.2

How real is it?

0:35.7

What happens to it when we die?

0:38.4

And where is it located when we're alive?

0:41.4

Now big thinkers have been thinking about the soul forever.

0:46.4

And Mary Roach says there have been some interesting ideas.

0:56.5

Oh yeah, well Aristotle had this notion of Numa, like as in pneumatic wind, and it was

1:04.6

this spirit, this thing that brought life where life didn't exist.

1:10.7

And it started out in the sperm.

1:16.9

And so when the sperm was sort of on arrival inside the woman's body, get busy kind of

1:21.2

building something where there was nothing, and they would sort of breathe life into

1:26.2

it with this Numa, this spirit.

1:30.5

Now if you don't like the Aristotelian view of the soul, Roach has some more you can

1:35.0

think about.

1:36.0

The ancient Egyptians thought that the heart was the center of the spirit that the soul

1:41.6

resided there.

1:42.6

The Babylonians identified the liver, and I think the stomach was a secondary seed of

1:47.1

the soul.

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