Straight after school, I went to work for this private membership community. I was then working with Nike in the office. I had a few other kind of brand entertainment jobs. What ended up happening is that I was in the scene and in the swing of it,

but then I had like life hit me in the face where I got sat down one day and just got fired.

I got let go, right? The company was going under,

they couldn't sustain their revenue, whatever. The CEO was like, look, we can't go on this way,

so we're letting all these people go, which is pretty much everyone but like the partners and the

people who are obviously integral to the business and so then overnight my

identity was stripped away I'd had three years of going this is interesting

this is cool I'm now part of this entertainment community,

I'm on this kind of pathway to being like an LA big wig in the scene and overnight it's a bit like,

oh, you've taken the job and the label away,

and no one actually cared who I was anymore. Hey there's Light Watkins, your host, and we are back with another story from the end of the tunnel.

If this is your first time listening to the show, here's what you're in for.

I interview luminaries, artists, philanthropists, creatives,

basically anyone who has gone above and beyond

to be the change that they want to see in the world. Sometimes they start movements or they create films or they write books that inspire people.

And in the case of this week's guest, they wrote a book that will teach you gentle wisdom through the ancient practice of

Sinbasuru, which is Japanese for The Art of Folding a Thousand Paper Cranes. The author's name is Michael James Wong. He is a dear friend of mine and his book, also called Simbasuru, actually came out the same week as my most recent book knowing where to look.

And one of the things that we talked about in our interview is how similar

the styles of those books are.

They are both books with gentle wisdom and axioms and parables.

They both have thoughtful illustrations with hidden Easter eggs for the reader.

They're both meant to be cracked open anywhere in the book and they don't have to be experienced

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