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Hello and welcome to Real Crime Profile.

I'm Joe Jim Clemente, former New York City prosecutor and retired FBI profiler. And with me today, at CrimeCon is...

Laura Richards, co-creator and producer of the case of John Bonnet Ramsey and founder and director of Paladin National Stalking Advocacy Service and Advocate and Author and Analysts.

I'm Lisa Zamvedi and I'm the casting director for Criminal Minds where Jim Clemente is my colleague and I have a real interest in Real Crime, say it with me.

And the minds that solve those crimes.

And?

Very special invited guest, Jim Fitzgerald, who's been a more or less regular person on the show.

So thank you for having me.

Absolutely. And we have another very special guest or guest, CrimeCon. Let's hear it!

Wow, thank you. Thank you. It's so great that everybody is here. We're so happy to be able to be doing this podcast with a live audience from CrimeCon17.

We're so thankful that everybody came here and we're so grateful for all the support that we've gotten because you know what it means?

It means that you guys love the fact that we are a victim-centric podcast.

Absolutely.

We talk about crime, but we do it from the victim's perspective. We give them back their voice. Thank you so much. So this applause is for you.

So if you've been listening recently, you know that we've been covering the case that's commonly called the West Memphis 3.

And to us, of course, those three are Chris Byers, Stevie Branch, and Michael Moore, who were three eight-year-old boys who were tragically and senselessly murdered in 1993.

But today, we're going to hit pause on talking about that case, but we are going to talk about a topic that came up while we were, well, Jim and Laura were profiling the case last episode.

And that is the subject of children who are abducted and killed, because they know a lot about this.

And I think you've asked me what are the most heartbreaking cases they've ever worked on, and I would guess that those cases are the most heartbreaking.

So with that, I'm going to throw it over to Jim and Laura.

Well, I will agree that those are the most heartbreaking cases that I've worked in my career. The hardest thing in the world is to have to inform parents or family members that their child has been abducted and killed.

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