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The Tim & April Show

74. Inside the NAR: The Christian Zealots Behind the Trump Administration

The Tim & April Show

TNE Media

Politics, News, News Commentary, Religion & Spirituality, Christianity

4.91.1K Ratings

🗓️ 30 December 2025

⏱️ 72 minutes

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Summary

In this episode of The Tim and April Show, Tim Whittaker and April Ajoy delve into the complexities of Christian nationalism, specifically the New Apostolic Reformation. They discuss the historical context of Christianity, the misinterpretation of scripture, and the dangers of dogmatic beliefs that prioritize power over compassion. Chapters 05:32 The Concept of Babylon in Christianity 11:46 The Misinterpretation of Jesus' Teachings 17:34 The Call for Empathy and Inclusion 26:17 Conclusion and Call to Action 39:11 Jesus and Caesar: A New Perspective 44:07 Power Dynamics in Religious Interpretation 48:45 Religious Hypocrisy and Political Power 54:48 The Duality of Christianity: Power vs. Subversion 59:24 The Danger of Misusing Scripture 01:11:54 The Problem with Dogmatic Beliefs 01:16:16 Using the Bible for Liberation vs. Oppression ____________________________________________________ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals  Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Joshgilbertmedia.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

You're listening to a new evangelicals production.

0:13.2

The Tim and April show, where we unravel faith, politics, and culture.

0:23.2

Hello, friends. Welcome back to the show

0:24.6

I am Tim Whitaker

0:25.4

I'm April

0:26.8

Ajoy

0:27.4

April we can't pretend that we're happy

0:30.0

We were just talking about how sad we are

0:32.4

Before we started recording

0:33.9

I can't do it

0:35.3

I can't play a character

0:36.4

I cannot do it on camera I'm sorry sorry. I'm sorry. No, sad people can smile too. Yeah. Yeah. We're smiling. I don't know. It's been a long year for all of us, you know, I'm sure. It's the holiday, which I do love holiday time. It's one of my favorite times of the year. It's just been, you know, it's intense, man. This is intense stuff.

0:55.0

Well, and this episode won't air until after Christmas, and we're recording this before Christmas.

1:02.0

Yeah, but it will come out before New Year. Yes. Happy New Year. Happy New Year, everybody. Knock on wood,

1:10.2

that it will be happy.

1:27.6

Yes. I mean, it's been, wow, this is the last show then that we do before the new year. Yeah, it's been one hell of a year. I don't think we need to recap all of it because we do it every week. But wow. It's been a doozy, but you know what? We're here. We made it through. We made it through. So we did. Yeah, yeah.

1:29.3

You made it through.

1:30.2

Yeah.

1:30.9

Yeah.

1:27.6

I have thought know what, we're here. We made it through. We made it through. So we did. Yeah, yeah.

1:33.5

We made it through. Yeah. Yeah. I have thoughts on that, but maybe for a different episode.

1:40.4

Today, friends, what April and I want to do is we want to talk about the new epistolic reformation.

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