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It's Dogma Debate with your host, Michael Regillio.

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Okay, so this episode is former vegan turned vegetarian, me, Michael Regillio, discussing meat production, dairy production, factory farming,

and the morality of eating meat in general with animal rights advocate Anna. And it occurs to me,

as I'm about to put out this episode, that I actually would like to have the debate of is eating

meat moral or immoral with somebody of a different

opinion. I don't eat meat. So if you have an argument that you think eating meat is totally

moral and that humans should eat other animals, I would very much like to invite you on the show.

I'd like to have that debate. And you can have that debate with me

or any debate you'd like to have with me

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and hitting that be a guest button.

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join the Patreon.

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