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I can't imagine someone getting into contracting and not understanding the business realities of it, that never happens, right? I think almost everyone starts from that premise. There are some big mistakes that can very suddenly cost you just because of your inexperience.

Welcome to the Fine Home Building podcast, our weekly discussion of building, remodeling, and

design topics aimed at anybody who cares deeply about the craft and science of working on houses.

This is Senior Editor Patrick McComb. Today I'm joined by Green Building Advisor, editor

Randy Williams. Morning. Fine Home Building contributing editor and operations manager for TDS

Design Build in Madison, Wisconsin, Ian Schwant. Howdy. And producer, Carrie Delahanty. Good morning.

Please email your questions to FHB Podcast at find Homebuilding.com. You can find

previous podcast and check out the show notes at findhomebuilding.com slash podcast. Well, it is great

to see you guys this morning. Thanks for being here. Absolutely. Yeah. Thanks for having us.

Oh my gosh, Randy. So it's been a while since you've been on the show. Most recently,

you were at a conference, I believe, and you look nice and tan, so I asked ahead of the show

if it was in Hawaii, but close, Ohio. So do you want to tell folks about that?

What's close about that?

Yeah, so I was at the National Home Performance Conference, which is put on by the Building Performance Association.

It's mostly geared towards weatherization people, but there are some really great sessions, really nerdy people, you know, like me that are there.

Got to hang out with Allison Bales quite a bit.

One of our writers, Doug Horgan, was there.

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