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Music of one of movies in general.

So what was Disney up to?

Well, they were still critically and commercially successful, but public interest is waning in their kind of feature, annual feature movie, and the studio is going to have a rocky time in the early odds getting back on their feet.

And then we have Pixar at that point is a wholly independent studio. Disney is distributing their movies, but they're doing something new.

Everyone is very excited about Pixar. By the time the Spirits Within comes out, they have, I believe, only three movies,

and then Monsters Inc follows right after this movie is released.

So they're just really taking off in terms of getting their animation studio off the ground and garnering excitement over what they're doing.

And then the CGI movie would become the dominant form of that movie in the West at least.

And then I've done this animation movie podcast for a very long time.

And I find it very interesting that in 2001, people were given three different options for the future of the animated film.

And it would determine, I want to say, the next 10 years of the animated film in the West,

potentially the next 15 years. So we had this movie, which was essentially photorealism with digital actors.

It's like they could make this as a movie with people, but they didn't. And it's going to fool you. And it's something you've never seen before. That's what was promised to you. And for the most part, that was true. So that was option one. Option two was Disney's Atlantis, which opened around the same time. And this was, we're going to get rid of all that music. We're all sick of the music too. It's going to be PG-rated high adventure, a little much of a harder edge.

Mike Minola is going to do the character designs. It's going to be, you know, meeting the people who grew up with Disney in the 90s. Now they're teenagers or young adults, and we're going to give them something that they would like. Nobody saw that. And then the third option is Shrek, and everybody likes Shrek. And Shrek would become the dominant kind of animated movie.

You need all of your pop culture jokes.

You need celebrities attached.

You need hideous character designs.

And that is a song.

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