Sarah, Sarah, some day praise.

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Sarah, Sarah!

I'm with the fabulous author, Erin Faulkner, who has a brand new book out, and it's called How to Break Up with Friends.

And Erin, I saw the title of this book. We have some mutual friends and I thought,

oh my God, I need this because I need to break up with so many people in my life. Like kind of

acquaintances, long time friends, toxic friends. So I was like, oh, what a fascinating premise for

a book. Tell me what inspired you to write how to break up with friends. So it's funny. I had my first book come out a couple years ago, which is called How to Get Shit Done, Why Women Need to Stop Doing Everything so they can achieve anything. And that's kind of rooted in the female, you know, empowerment

and female productivity space, kind of redefining what that looks like, what that should or could look like for women.

And as I was looking to write the follow-up to that, I kind of went down a million little rabbit holes that all hit dead ends.

And I was like, this feels like a retread or I'm not you know whatever just the ideas

didn't work for me and as I was in that process I woke up one morning at like six in the morning

half awake half asleep and this sentence how to break up with your friends just kind of popped in my

mind and I tried to go back to sleep, couldn't go back to sleep.

For the next couple days, it just kept kind of surfacing and resurfacing.

So the point where I stopped and it was like, what is this?

What is, what is this all about?

And I started to look at my own friendships and I realized I had so many built up like irritations or resentments or I missed

people that I was still in friendships with, but like I guess I wasn't getting enough from them,

wanted more. And I was like, as I dove deeper, I was like, it's unbelievable. We have this like untapped energy source in front of us with these friendships that we just kind of take for granted. We just kind of dial in. We don't really have eyes on them or audit it in any concrete or actionable way. And so what ends up happening because you're not really paying attention to these relationships

like you are a romantic partner, you know, your family members, you end up kind of having these

rifts that, you know, can form, you don't even really realize it until you look and go, oh, wow,

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