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The Terri Cole Show

731 Recovery for the Codependent Perfectionist with Alana Carvalho

The Terri Cole Show

Terri Cole

Psychotherapist, Sustainablechange, Guidance, Mental Health, Simplestrategies, Society & Culture, Powerofintention, Simplestrategiestoachievepersonalfreedom, Hellofreedom, Easternmindfulnesspractices, Relationships, Health & Fitness, Practicalpsychology, Terricole

51.3K Ratings

🗓️ 26 June 2025

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Summary

I'm so excited to have a new pal, Alana Carvalho, a licensed mental health counselor, on the show to talk about two topics we're both passionate about: codependency and perfectionism!

We talk about why these two things go together, our experiences of being in recovery from both, what inspired Alana to create The Codependent Perfectionist brand, how to ease up on perfectionism and codependent behaviors, and so much more. 

I hope you enjoy our conversation as much as I did!

Read the show notes for today's episode at terricole.com/731

Transcript

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0:00.0

Well, hello, friends. Welcome to this episode of the Terry Cole show. Do you identify as a perfectionist or a codependent? Or both, if you're nodding your head, yes, then this interview that I just did with Alana Carvalho is for you. She is the codependent perfectionist on Instagram. That's how I met her and her work.

0:25.6

She also has a podcast called the codependent perfectionist podcast. And that is basically what her work

0:30.9

is all about. She's a New York-based licensed mental health counselor, specializes in helping

0:36.8

individuals, couples and families,

0:38.4

build balance connected, and rewarding relationships.

0:42.1

But her real passion and where we sort of the intersection for us is helping people learn about

0:47.7

codependency.

0:48.5

What's the difference between being codependent and rescuing?

0:52.9

And how do we start making these shifts away from codependency towards healthier relationships?

1:01.2

And that's exactly what we talked about in this interview.

1:03.2

So I hope that you enjoy my interview with Alana Carvalho as much as I enjoyed interviewing her.

1:23.4

This is the Terry Cole show, and as you might have guessed, I'm your host, Terry Cole.

1:28.1

For over two and a half decades, I've been a licensed psychotherapist and relationship expert,

1:35.0

and I'm also the author of Boundary Boss, the essential guide to talk true, be seen, and finally live free.

1:40.2

On this show, I'll bring you simple strategies based on practical psychology, inspiring expert interviews, and my own insights and observations for my time on the front lines in the fascinating

1:45.9

worlds of entertainment, empowerment, and mental health. Now let's get going with today's

1:51.2

episode. Well, hello there, people, and welcome back to the Terry Cole show. I'm super excited

2:00.3

to welcome a new pal, a new guest, Alana Carvalho, to the Terry Cole show. I'm super excited to welcome a new pal,

2:02.2

a new guest, Alana Carvalho, to the show. Welcome. Thanks so much for having me.

2:08.1

I'm so excited. We finally got it together to do it. So we're both extremely passionate about

2:13.7

lots of the same topics. So before we get into talking about codependency and perfectionism

2:20.6

and all the things, I would love it if you would just give us some of your background. Like if you

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