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TFTC: A Bitcoin Podcast

#730: Trump's Geopolitical Poker Game with Tom Luongo

TFTC: A Bitcoin Podcast

Marty Bent

Technology

4.8804 Ratings

🗓️ 23 March 2026

⏱️ 109 minutes

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Summary

Marty sits down with Tom Luongo to discuss the recent US military operation against Iran, Trump's "poker player" strategy to dismantle the City of London's control over global shipping insurance and energy markets, and the potential end of the "chaos premium" in international trade.

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0:00.0

You've had a dynamic where money has become freer than free.

0:10.0

If you talk about a Fed just gone nuts, all the central banks going nuts.

0:16.0

So it's all acting like safe haven.

0:18.0

I believe that in a world where central bankers are tripping over themselves to devalue their currency,

0:24.4

Bitcoin wins.

0:25.3

In the world of fiat currencies, Bitcoin is the victor.

0:29.1

I mean, that's part of the bold case for Bitcoin.

0:31.9

If you're not paying attention, you probably should be.

0:36.3

Mr. Longo, we meet here on yet another Friday evening.

0:40.3

Seems to be our time of recording, choice of recording over the years.

0:46.3

I'm like I was just telling you, I need you to pull me back from the edge.

0:48.3

I'm, I'm doom scrolling a lot this week.

0:51.3

I'm, I'm, we are.

0:53.3

I don't know if you were reading my Twitter feed, but it's not the three o'clock in the morning trying to like take people off the edge and go, no, everything. It's as funny. It's good to see you, Marty. And yes, I do, I do like doing these on Friday afternoon with you. It's like we had an opportunity to sit down, kind of look at the week that was the last

1:11.1

couple weeks for us, you know, and it's a good time to do this. And we're both tired after a long week. So it's like, yeah, man, like this, it's not going to be fireworks tonight. It's going to be, you know, that kind of thing. And which is a good thing. I do enough of those. I do enough of the fire breathing Tom during the week.

1:28.6

So I, you know, it's funny.

1:32.0

Since this thing began, you know, and again, I'll back up for a minute.

1:37.6

In the lead up to it, I was looking at it going, at first I'm like, is he just playing a game, right?

1:45.2

And then I saw the like full two carrier strike groups and I thought about what he did in Venezuela

1:51.2

and the way he handled Venezuela.

1:54.0

And I'm like, no, there's going to be an operation of some form or another here because

1:59.6

Venezuela was very much targeted

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