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73: The Thief and The Psych Ward

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🗓️ 7 May 2026

⏱️ 47 minutes

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(WATCH THIS EPISODE ON YOUTUBE) "By all appearances, a man who went by William Woods had turned his life around. . . .There was just one problem: Although William Woods is a real person, the man is not that person." –Eighth Circuit Court of Appeals Reb visits a really messed up hot dog cart from 1988 and a saga that'll make you question everybody's last name. Just to be sure. This is United States v. Keirans (8th Cir. 2026). Enjoy. SOURCES: 8th Circuit Opinion (April 23, 2026): https://ecf.ca8.uscourts.gov/opndir/26/04/251339P.pdf University of Iowa article: https://stories.uiowa.edu/uipd-detective-unravels-decades-long-identity-scheme Find William Woods' name and SUPPORT: https://exonerationregistry.org/ *** MERCH STORE IS LIVE! Shop Reb Masel and Rebuttal Pod merch: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://rebmasel.shop/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠CLICK HERE⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to PREORDER Reb's book: The Book They Throw At You—A Sarcastic Lawyer's Guide* To The Unholy Chaos of Our Legal System, *God No, Not Actual Legal Advice *** Follow @RebuttalPod on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Twitter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠! Follow @Rebmasel on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TikTok⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Twitter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠! *** 00:00 - Intro 00:31 - CASE BEGINS. 03:38 - THE FIRST ARREST. 05:17 - FOUR YEARS LATER... 07:40 - (REB RANTS) 23andMe + Prosecutor budgets 12:00 - BACK TO THE CASE. 13:13 - "WILLIAM WOODS". 14:15 - "CALIFORNIA BILL". 16:56 - Campus police are useful for once?! 17:10 - (REB RANTS) Your husband is a psychopath. Act like it. 19:55 - (REB RANTS) You did a good deed. Stop bragging. 21:23 - "WHO IS YOUR SON?" 24:34 - WHO IS MATTHEW KEIRANS? 28:13 - Identity theft statistics. 29:56 - THE SECOND ARREST. 35:16 - the District Attorney said WHAT?!?!??!?! 37:04 - THE CHARGES + LOGISTICAL NIGHTMARE. 39:36 - THE APPEAL & OUTCOME (April 2026). 45:30 - REB'S REBUTTAL. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Welcome back to the rebuttal podcast where we break down case law, comedy, and chaos in the legal

0:05.1

field. I am your host, Reb Maisel, and today I have a case that came across my desk three days ago.

0:11.9

It was filed. This opinion in the Eighth Circuit was filed on April 23rd, 2026. I am filming this

0:18.1

on April 26th, 2026. And we do have an episode already slated for next week. So I am

0:25.9

recording this now so that we can get it out there because what? What? It may come as little

0:32.8

surprise that Franz Kafka, the Czech author of nightmarish and darkly absurd tales about impenetrable

0:39.8

bureaucracies, arbitrary and capricious courts, interminable proceedings, and confounding judgments

0:45.7

was, indeed, a lawyer. The term Kafkaesque now describes nightmarishly complex, bizarre, or

0:53.2

illogical situations, particularly those

0:55.9

involving oppressive bureaucratic systems where an individual feels powerless.

1:00.9

In a beige-walled courtroom in eastern Iowa, a man who has been William Woods for his

1:05.4

entire life faced a man who had been known as William Woods for much of his.

1:09.9

That hearing in March of 2025 brought an end to

1:13.2

what prosecutors called a quote, Kafkaesque plot that resulted in the false imprisonment,

1:18.4

involuntary hospitalization, and forced medication of the real Mr. Woods. By all appearances, a man

1:26.0

who went by the name William Woods had turned his life around.

1:29.3

Three decades ago, he was homeless and worked at a hot dog cart. But then the man got married and had

1:34.9

a child. He opened up bank accounts, received credit lines, and started working at an Iowa hospital

1:39.9

where he was a high-level IT administrator, quote, the key administrator of critical systems,

1:46.2

and earned more than $100,000 per year. There was just one problem. Although William Woods is a real

1:51.9

person, this man is not that person. Instead, the man's name is Matthew Kearins. Cairns met the

1:57.7

real Woods in the 1980s. Woods was Karen's coworker at the Hot Dog Cart. From then on, Cairns. Cairns met the real woods in the 1980s. Woods was Cairns co-worker at the hot dog cart. From then on, Cairns used Woods's

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