Welcome to the Tech Policy Podcast. I'm Evan Sportsdriver, your host. On today's show,

when it comes to product design and the decisions that Google and Apple and Amazon make about how their app store works, does the government know best or should companies

be trusted to protect consumers? We've all seen this story in the news. A child runs up thousands

of dollars worth of in-app purchases on games like Candy Crush or other games, and the parents

clearly didn't want this to happen. And even though in pretty much every case, the companies have been willing to refund those purchases, the government has still

taken action against these companies for making it too easy for children to buy things in apps.

So joining me to discuss this is Manchild himself and President of Tech Freedom, Baron Soka.

Baron, thank you for joining us.

Thank you for treating me like a small child.

If you could do more of that on a daily basis to manage my calendar and other things,

I would be very grateful.

I think it's called Human Resources.

And also here is Gus Hurwitz, a professor at Nebraska Law and visiting fellow at the American Enterprise Institute.

You can check out his work at TechPolicyDaily.com.

He happened to be here for some other reason, but because he is so brilliant and knows so much about so many things,

we decided to have him join the show in kind of an impromptu manner.

So, Gus, thank you for joining us.

Tech freedoms, gravity is strong, and I just got sucked in. But he'sromptu manner. So Gus, thank you for joining us. Tech Freedom's, gravity is

strong, and I just got sucked in. But he's not wearing his Pac-Man suit, unfortunately, which I was

hoping that he would wear today. We might include that in the show notes. Now, talking about that suit

is an unfair practice, Baron. But it's not deceptive. He actually have a pacman suit yeah if i if i end up

working here for another year and people ask me why i'm doing this to myself i might say it's because

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