And I've always said from day one, my goal was not to get you to like police officers.

I'm not here to have you put up a thin blue line flag in your front yard and say,

oh, I love police officers all of a sudden.

All I want you to do is just have a different perspective of law enforcement by the time you're done talking to me.

Because if I can give you a different perspective, it doesn't mean that you're necessarily

going to like me all of a sudden.

But all it means is that the next time you see a video that comes out of Philadelphia,

the next time you see a video that comes out of San Bernardino, you'll be able to say,

hey, look, I have a different unique perspective because somebody I know who's credible

that's knowledgeable in this subject has been able to give me some insight

that I wouldn't have had before even though I may not like that person.

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Yo, what's going on?

Welcome to another episode of the It's Needed Podcast where we discuss real issues

involving law enforcement in the community.

It's your boy, Ryan Tillman, founder of Breaking Barriers United.

And I'm joined today by the Lyskin Wonder himself, Mr. Oh, no, it's the Popo.

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