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The Patrick Coffin Show | Interviews with influencers | Commentary about culture | Tools for transformation

73: Does the Church Hate Gays? Father Mike Schmitz

The Patrick Coffin Show | Interviews with influencers | Commentary about culture | Tools for transformation

Patrick Coffin

Catholicanswers, Christianity, Religion & Spirituality, Culture, Society & Culture, Commentary, Americanculture, Catholic, Conservative, Podcast, Christian

4.8 • 1.4K Ratings

🗓️ 1 May 2018

⏱️ 52 minutes

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You may have seen Father Mike in one of his popular Ascension Presents video commentaries. His topics—delivered in his energetic and telegenic style—tend toward what’s currently trending but he always anchors his subject (living together, chastity, celebrity culture, movie and TV examples, etc.) in the timeless teachings of the Church. From what I can see, there is no topic territory that is off limits, including the teaching on homosexuality—the forbidden topic par excellence in today’s climate of political correctness and confusion.

Which brings me to this week’s episode, in which Father Mike and I talk about his new book, Made For Love: Same-Sex Attractions and the Catholic Church https://amzn.to/2J8Ikxj. It’s all about balance, understanding, and having the courage to put the focus where it belongs: on compassion that is yet unafraid to speak the truth.

The issue of homosexuality has been massively co-opted by the secular media and by so-called pro-gay factions with Christianity. The result is widespread confusion: what exactly is the Catholic teaching? Where is it in the Bible? How to respond to family members and friends who “come out”? Is it possible to be biblically faithful and pastorally attuned to peoples’ real needs?

In this interview, you will learn:

  • Why the Church makes the careful distinction between inclination and behavior, or between unbidden temptation and chosen sin.
  • How best to respond to a loved one who a loved one who “comes out” to you
  • How our culture of relativism makes it doubly hard to have a conversation about objective morality, especially when it comes to something this emotion-charged
  • The way in which Father Mike’s relationship with his same-sex attracted brother provides a model for imitation
  • Why identifying as “gay” represents a terrible reduction of the dignity of the human person
  • Why the legal reality of “gay marriage” is best understood as a matter of redefinition and has nothing to do with sexual behavior, per se.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to episode 73 of the Patrick Coffin Show.

0:04.0

I'm Dr. Jordan B Peterson.

0:06.0

Clean up your damn room.

0:08.0

Stand up straight with your shoulders back and listen to the Patrick Coffin Shill.

0:13.0

Welcome to the show.

0:14.0

There are a few topics in the world and in the church, more controversial than homosexuality,

0:19.0

how to understand same-sex attraction and behavior in light of the gospel and the teaching of the

0:23.0

Catholic Church. Today we're going to talk about it head on with my good friend

0:26.9

Father Mike Schmitz, author of this fine book, Made for Love, same sex attractions

0:31.9

and the Catholicpy Church.

0:33.2

Coming up straight ahead on the Patrick Coffin Show. Yes indeed. Welcome to the show. Thanks for hanging out. Father Mike Schmitz is the

0:47.7

director of youth and young adult ministry for the Diocese of Duluth. He's also

0:51.8

the chaplain for the Newman Center at the University of Minnesota

0:54.8

Duluth. He is a writer and a speaker and he is crushing it on YouTube with

1:00.0

his amazing Ascension presents commentaries.

1:04.2

His latest book's title made for love, as I mentioned,

1:06.1

same sex attractions and the Catholic Church.

1:07.9

Father Mike Schmitz, it's Schmitz, Schmitz, Schmitz, Schmitz,

1:11.3

Schmitz, you nailed it, Smurf.

1:13.0

Smurf, it's Smurf.

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Smurf. Smur, and the X is silent.

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For the record.

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