729: How to Raise Kids Without Raising Your Voice, with Jon Fogel
Coaching for Leaders
Dave Stachowiak
4.8 • 1.6K Ratings
🗓️ 14 April 2025
⏱️ 39 minutes
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Summary
Jon Fogel is a husband, a father of four, and a parenting educator. His goal is to teach how to parent more effectively, with less stress and more success by combining modern neuroscience, developmental psychology, counseling, and positive, gentle parenting wisdom. He is the author of Punishment-Free Parenting: The Brain-Based Way to Raise Kids Without Raising Your Voice*.
Most of us aspire to lead well in every area of our lives, not just in the workplace. A key place for leadership with many of us is with our kids and the other young people in our lives. In this conversation, Jon and I discuss how to raise kids without raising your voice.
Key Points
Consequences and punishment are not the same thing, even if the words are used interchangeably.
Our kids want us to like them. They are not giving you a hard time; they’re having a hard time.
Punishment doesn’t “teach kids a lesson.” More often, it crowds out higher level thinking and children are unable to remember what they were being punished for.
Rather than imposing retribution, help children surface that natural and logistical consequences of their behaviors.
Get curious, not furious. Often, there’s a perfectly rational reason that children are acting they way they are.
Children are great imitators. So give them something great to imitate.
Resources Mentioned
Punishment-Free Parenting: The Brain-Based Way to Raise Kids Without Raising Your Voice* by Jon Fogel
Jon Fogel on Instagram
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| 0:00.0 | Most of us aspire to lead well in every area of our lives, not just in the workplace. |
| 0:07.1 | A key place for leadership with many of us is with our kids and the other young people in our lives. |
| 0:13.9 | In this episode, How to Raise Kids Without Raising Your Voice. |
| 0:18.7 | This is Coaching for Leaders, Episode 729. |
| 0:23.1 | Produced by Innovate Learning, maximizing human potential. |
| 0:31.4 | Greetings to you from Orange County, California. |
| 0:34.6 | This is Coaching for Leaders, and I'm your host, Dave Stahoviac. Leaders |
| 0:39.8 | Aren't Born. They're made. And this weekly show helps you discover leadership wisdom through insightful |
| 0:46.0 | conversations. Often the conversations we have on this show are about leadership in organizations. |
| 0:53.5 | Once in a while, though, it makes sense to take a |
| 0:56.1 | little bit of a shift. And today, taking a little bit of a shift to leadership in another |
| 0:59.9 | context, leadership at home. So many of us, either our parents, have kids in our lives, have |
| 1:06.5 | dear friends who have children. And we think a lot about leadership in the context, not just at work, |
| 1:12.5 | but also and how do we do it in our families. And I know it's a place that I probably |
| 1:18.1 | entertain more doubt in leadership than any other place. And yet the most important leadership role I |
| 1:24.1 | have as a parent. Today I'm so glad to welcome John Fogle, who's going to help us to, not just in a |
| 1:30.1 | direction that will help us to lead, well, yes, at home, but also so many principles here |
| 1:33.5 | that help us lead in just about every context. |
| 1:36.4 | John is a husband, a father of four, and a parenting educator. |
| 1:39.4 | His goal is to teach how to parent more effectively with less stress and more success by combining |
| 1:45.7 | modern neuroscience, developmental psychology, counseling, and positive, gentle parenting |
| 1:51.1 | wisdom. He is the author of Punishment-Free Parenting, the Brain-Based Way to Raise |
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