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we have Tim Brown with us today, and Tim's been on the show before, and he has had an arc

and a journey that the listeners of this show maybe have gotten to witness. Tim was a pastor.

He was a chaplain in the United States Army. He did a tour in Afghanistan. And his life, his mind

has opened up. His heart has opened up. Tim today is not very religious anymore. He's come out as gay and he's not very, well, he's not

very in tune with the evangelical movement as it stands today. And he's come to talk about his journey

and a lot more. Tim, thanks for coming on the show. Yeah, thanks for having me. I've met David and I've been on a few times.

This is, I think, my third or fourth, I'd have to count. I did a telephone for him one time out in L.A.

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