726: Is HTMX a Joke?

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Wes Bos

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🗓️ 5 February 2024

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Scott and Wes unravel the mysteries of HTMX, exploring the essentials for getting started, its powerful capabilities, limitations, and possible stacks for building primarily server rendered applications. Show Notes 00:00 Welcome 02:07 Brought to you by Sentry.io 02:53 What exactly is HTMX? 04:30 What you need to know before working in HTMX. 04:35 You need a server. 05:35 You’ll most likely need a templating engine. 06:42 You most likely do not need as much client-side JS. 08:33 You don’t work in JSON 11:15 Not something you can swap out your UI with in a SPA. 11:48 Brings back AJAX 13:32 So, what can it do? 15:20 And what it doesn’t do. 18:25 It doesn’t do server-side responses. 19:09 What about animations? 19:20 What about CSS? 19:57 What about Web Components? 20:06 What about third-party client-side JS? 20:18 What about WebSockets and SSE? HTMX WebSockets 20:30 What about extensions? HTMX Extensions 21:00 Wes’ “bomb” question. 24:16 What Scott likes about HTMX. 25:45 What Scott doesn’t like about HTMX. HTMX Multi-Swap 30:33 Hype, Meta Framework. Hype Hit us up on Socials! Syntax: X Instagram Tiktok LinkedIn Threads Wes: X Instagram Tiktok LinkedIn Threads Scott: X Instagram Tiktok LinkedIn Threads Randy: X Instagram YouTube Threads

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0:00.0	Welcome to Syntax on this Monday hasty treat. We're going hyper media. We're going hyper media. We're talking all about
0:09.8	H.T.M.X. from a practical perspective.
0:15.1	So we're not gonna be getting too much
0:16.7	into actual code here, but bigger picture things.
0:20.8	What do you need to know about this
0:22.0	as somebody who might not know anything? My name is Scott Tolinsky. I'm from Denver with me as always is West Boss. West what's going on my man?
0:30.3	Pretty excited to talk about H.T.Miumx today it's funny that if we go back to the potluck
0:37.0	episode questions we had we've had questions about htumx for years
0:41.8	yeah long time and it only seems recently with the like sort of swing back to the server.
0:46.7	A lot of people are talking about it and I'm pretty stoked about it.
0:50.5	And it is not the new Microsoft version of
0:54.0	HTML that you may have thought. You know when
0:57.0	Microsoft, what version was it?
0:59.2	Were they like XLS X and Doc X?
1:02.0	You know, they added X to the end of all their new formats.
1:05.0	And everybody, yeah, everybody got angry. I got angry about that. That was obnoxious.
1:10.0	That was like Windows Vista era where they were just really making big mistakes all the time.
1:15.6	Yeah, well like it was a new format so like the same thing happened with Common J.S.
1:20.6	is that there's some way you need to put some sort of metadata in the
1:25.8	file extension so they added an X is that why they did it probably probably and you
1:30.7	know what Wes, it's like only you could tie X
1:37.5	X Excel X Excel, Word X or whatever, Doc X,
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