720: The Way Towards a Bit More Bravery, with Margie Warrell

Coaching for Leaders

Dave Stachowiak

Education, Business, Management, Self-improvement, Careers

4.8 • 1.6K Ratings

🗓️ 17 February 2025

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

Margie Warrell: The Courage Gap
Margie Warrell is a best-selling author, keynote speaker, leadership coach, and Forbes columnist. With twenty-five years of experience living and working around the world, she has dedicated her life to helping others overcome fear and unlock their potential. She is the author of The Courage Gap: 5 Steps to Braver Action*.

Whether it’s painting a vision of the future or giving feedback on something that didn’t work yesterday, courage is a necessity for leaders. In this episode, Margie and I highlight the way towards just a bit more of it.
Key Points

Leaders may rise in the ranks because of what they do, but cap themselves because of who they are.
The smarter we are, the more our fears work in the background.
Beware discounting the future. Fear causes us to value the future less than the present.
Reel in fearcasting worst-case scenarios. These can prevent us from seeing the benefits of action.
Stop rationalizing inaction and excess caution. An excuse is always there to prevent you from doing that’s right and true.
Avoid betraying yourself to secure status with others.

Resources Mentioned

The Courage Gap: 5 Steps to Braver Action* by Margie Warrell

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0:00.0	Whether it's painting a vision of the future or giving feedback on the thing that didn't work yesterday, courage is a necessity for leaders. In this episode, the way towards just a bit more of it. This is Coaching for Leaders, episode 720.
0:18.5	Produced by Innovate Learning, maximizing human potential.
0:26.9	Greetings to you from Orange County, California.
0:30.2	This is Coaching for Leaders, and I'm your host, Dave Stahoviac.
0:34.7	Leaders aren't born.
0:36.2	They're made.
0:37.2	And this weekly show will help you discover
0:39.0	leadership wisdom through insightful conversations. Oh, how we all wish to be just a little bit
0:46.7	more brave in our work every day, in our lives, of moving forward on the things that are so
0:53.1	important to us, to our teams,
0:55.8	and to our organizations. And yet, of course, we are all stopped by fear in one way or another.
1:01.9	Today, a bit of a nudge for us all, a little bit more toward the side of bravery and how we can
1:07.8	start taking some of those first steps to show up in the way we want to.
1:11.8	I am so pleased to welcome Margie Worrell to the show. She is a best-selling author,
1:16.6	keynote speaker, leadership coach, Ann Forbes columnist. With 25 years of experience living and
1:22.1	working around the world, she has dedicated her life to helping others overcome fear and unlock their potential.
1:29.2	She is the author of The Courage Gap, Five Steps to Braver Action.
1:34.4	Margie, so good to see you.
1:36.3	Welcome to the show.
1:37.6	Dave, great to be with you, too.
1:39.6	I was struck by a story you tell in the book about a nightmare you had before your first book
1:48.5	came out. Would you share that story? I would say it's probably what I'm having as this book
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