720: The Casino-fication of the Church and Mark DeYmaz
The Holy Post
Phil Vischer
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🗓️ 13 May 2026
⏱️ 84 minutes
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Summary
Online gambling is changing the way we watch sports. Rather than cheering for a team together, more people now focus on their individual prop bets. Russell Moore says the same thing is happening in the church as individual interests and personal goals are overshadowing our collective calling as Christ's people. Mark DeYmaz talks with Skye about how the prayer of St. Francis has helped his church navigate racial, economic, and political divisions. Christian colleges say a provision in the Republicans' Big Beautiful Bill is an "existential threat to the future of religious higher education in the US." Also this week—Christian leaders praying at the feet of a golden statue in Florida insist it's not an idol.
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0:00 - Show Starts
2:20 - Theme Song
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7:00 - Catching Up
10:08 - Golden Trump Statue
16:31 - Christian College Funds Cut
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33:52 - Casino-fication of the Church
50:10 - Interview
54:07 - Multi-Ethnic Church
59:47 - Prayer of St. Francis
1:10:10 - Challenging Political Idolatry
1:25:14 - End Credit
Links Mentioned in News Segment:
Christian Colleges Call New Federal Regulation an 'Existential Threat':
Trump's Golden Statue:
https://www.newsweek.com/pastor-defends-golden-trump-statue-from-biblical-backlash-11933490
The Casinofication of Church:
https://www.christianitytoday.com/2026/04/against-casinofication-church-sports-gambling/
Other Resources:
Make Me an Instrument of Your Peace: Becoming More like Jesus Through the Prayer of St. Francis:
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to the Holy Post. Online gambling is changing the way we watch sports. Rather than a shared |
| 0:05.5 | experience cheering for a team, more people now focus on their individual prop bets. Russell Moore says |
| 0:11.4 | the same thing is happening in the church as individual interests and personal goals are |
| 0:15.9 | overshadowing our collective calling as Christ's people. Then Mark DeMaz talks with me about the prayer of St. Francis and how it's helping his church |
| 0:24.0 | navigate racial, economic, and political divisions. |
| 0:27.4 | Christian colleges say a provision in the Republicans' Big Beautiful Bill is an existential |
| 0:31.8 | threat to the future of religious higher education in America. |
| 0:35.8 | Also this week, religious leaders praying at the feet of a |
| 0:38.7 | golden statue in Florida insist it's not an idol. Hey, quick note before we get started. I've got a |
| 0:44.5 | crazy interesting bonus interview this week with Mark DeMaz exclusively for Holy Post Plus subscribers. |
| 0:50.2 | We talk about the economics of churches and how the funding model directly affects how prophetic and courageous a pastor is likely to be. |
| 0:58.0 | If you've been frustrated by the silence in your church community about important things happening in our country, in the world, or in your city, you will definitely want to hear what Mark DeMaz has to say about it. |
| 1:07.7 | Again, that bonus interview is only for Holy Post Plus subscribers. So if you've not yet signed up, head over to holypost.com to learn about it. Again, that bonus interview is only for Holy Post Plus subscribers, so if you've |
| 1:11.9 | not yet signed up, head over to holypost.com to learn how. Here is episode 720. |
| 1:17.7 | Hey there, welcome back to the Holy Post podcast. I'm Phil Fisher. I'm Hairw. Sky Jatani. |
| 1:22.9 | Hi, Sky. Hi, Phil. And Caitlin Chet's. Hi, Caitlin. Hi, Phil. Wearing lovely brown. |
| 1:29.2 | I like that color on you. |
| 1:30.5 | Thank you. |
| 1:31.3 | Yeah. |
| 1:32.1 | I'm going for like a 50s thing lately. |
| 1:33.9 | Yeah, I like it. |
| 1:34.9 | I like it. |
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