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Oh God, What Now?

72: No Lexit Strategy: special guest ZOE WILLIAMS on the Brexit battle on the Left

Oh God, What Now?

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Politics, Government, News, Society & Culture

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🗓️ 14 September 2018

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Summary

Guardian columnist and Left Against Brexit activist ZOE WILLIAMS joins us to talk over the surreal Operation Yellowhammer, Boris Johnson’s Operation I Still Want To Be Prime Minister, why the ERG can’t stop battering the corpse of Chequers… and the Brexit battle on the New Left. What will it take to dispel the Lexit fantasy? And how can Labour supporters shift the party to support a People’s Vote? “For Labour, the electoral argument against Brexit is dead,” says Zoe. “And if you’re not against a Far Right project like Brexit, then what is the Left for?” This week’s REMAINIACS is presented by Dorian Lynskey with Ros Taylor and Nina Schick. Producer: Andrew Harrison. Audio production: Sophie Black. Remainiacs is a Podmasters production. Support us on Patreon! Help us to #OwnTheRemoan and get every show a day early – plus smart Remainiacs merchandise, an exclusive weekly column by our panel, and discounts on #RemainiacsLive tickets too. REMAINIACS.com Theme music ‘Demon Is A Monster’ used by kind permission of Cornershop. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to a mildly stressed edition of Remaniacs. We've got our live show at

0:13.0

the Leicester Square Theatre tonight Wednesday 12th. I'm Dorian Litzkiy, I'm presenting

0:16.6

this show and that one too. By the time you hear this you'll know whether the continuity

0:20.2

wing of leave.eu have affected the citizens arrest for treason. In which case please

0:24.7

donate to our crowdfunded defence appeal. Everyone's grifting why can't we? Today's

0:30.0

regular's aunt appearing at the live shows, their levels of angst are more manageable.

0:33.5

Back after too long an absence is Ros Taylor, research manager of the Truth Trust and Technology

0:37.8

Commission, the three T's. Hi Ros, welcome back to the show. Hello. There was a great

0:42.3

piece this week on LSE Brexit blogs which you edit which says that Brexit has unlocked

0:46.2

existential angst on both sides and leave us a suffering from it as badly as Remaniacs

0:50.6

which is good. Tell us what it discovered. Yeah this was by Christopher Browning an academic

0:56.6

at Warwick and he was basically saying that what has happened since the referendum is

1:01.8

that it has shaken up people's sense of security, of having a self identity and it has led

1:09.2

to a degree of existential angst really and it's particularly the case for people who

1:13.4

are very invested in Brexit, it was their use citizens or not living in the UK but ultimately

1:20.0

that has led to the creation of these badges of identity, levers and remainers and frankly

1:27.0

we're the ultimate expression of that as Remaniacs. It's in the name. Yeah so the reason

1:33.5

why levers are as miserable as we are is because they were already feeling shaken up by

1:40.4

the way things like austerity had disrupted their lives and now they feel cheated as

1:45.7

well. Yes I know it's hard to believe they feel cheated but they do because it's all

1:51.5

taking a long time. So the only happy people are the ones who aren't paying attention.

1:56.3

Yeah. Good. Also with us is Nina Schick, political commentator, expert on disinformation

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