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Welcome to 72 plus the EFL pod from Five Lives for as ever alongside me, my co-pilot, the navigator of this program.

Joelle Joshua Frederick Melvin McEnough, how are you, pal? Yeah, I'm very well. A little bit tired. I had a bit of a late night on a Monday of all nights. Went out to The Legends of Football. Got a little invite from the EFL crew, so thank you to them for that. But yeah, really good do. I was literally ready to leave as it finished about quarter past, 20 past 11, sort of got to get up the next day, school run and all that. And then I bump into a couple of former teammates in Marlon Harewood and Wes Morgan. And then before I knew it, it was a lot later than it should have been. And I'm now thinking how many hours I've got till the alarm goes off. So, still recovering from that, but a great night. That's the thing, Lyle Taylor's on his Auxaiders as well. When you hobnobbing, when you're a socialite, a football socialite like Joby, you have to make allowances for certain things. And like, you know, he's coming in, he's saying he's still feeling it a couple of days. And I mean, that's age kicking in, isn't it? But unlike us, two men in our 30s who we go to bed early, we get up early, we rise early, we live in a very holistic way, a natural way. We do. Good afternoon, good morning, good evening. Hello. Depending on where you are in the world. But no, we are, we epitomize professionalism We do. We do. And Joby could take a leaf out of our book Could take a chapter? A chapter, correct? And go to bed at nine o'clock. I don't know who he thinks he is anymore. Coming on this part. I lost myself. I did lose myself.

Game's gone.

He is mystery NFL, so, you know, it is what it is. Something like that. Any reflections on Rex and Birmingham, Joby? That's if you still remember it. Probably my takeaway is from that. It was very wet and very windy. I mean, it was in the midst of the storm. but we got out there, got it done, pitchside.

Tom Wagner was with us before and very windy. I mean, it was in the midst of the storm. But we got out there, got it done, pitch side.

Tom Wagner was with us before and very, very ambitious,

certainly not accepting consolidation this season and really wants to push on and get themselves promoted.

But again, you know, really good in terms of how open he is,

how transparent is. Got a little bit of stick, didn't he? It has half time sort of getting the crowd going. They were behind. And I think you take it two ways, you know, is it a bit over the top? Or actually, I'd look at it the other way. You know, we always talk about these sort of distant owners. Do really care about the club he is there he was in the mix

in the away end this is the owner of the football club

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