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72 Plus, the EFL podcast with Aaron Paul and Joby McEnough.

Hello, welcome to 72 plus the EFL podcast from Five Lives Football Daily after a busy week across the EFL.

It's also a good morning, good day. Hello, how are you? To Joe B. Mackenough,

how are you, Jabias? I'm very, very well and very grateful I was in the studio last night for the

rex of game. Obviously, we're having a little bit of a bad spell weather-wise out there. So there

are some occasions where you're like, yeah, it's a

definite good one to be nice and warm. Actually, I was probably a little bit too warm. We had a little

blow heater in the studio. It's either like absolutely roasting sometimes or freezing cold. We

can't quite get the temp right. So we actually went with a portable heater yesterday. And yeah,

I mean, I'm texting Tommy Smith along the way and just complaining about how warm I was. But I know it is a complete opposite for those of you who were out and about at games, Aaron, wasn't it? What can I say? Flying the flag for proper football jobs. No heated G-Lays and none of that rubbish. I'm a flask and a dream kind of man. That's me.

Big coat, thermos full of something warm. My old age has. I'm getting on, mate. I'm in my 40s now, do you know what I mean? I saw a colleague at football the other day had these hand warmers. She had charged up. What's that all about? Levels. What is that about? I get the little sachets, you know, the ones you put in the gloves, obviously.

They're quite good just to keep your hands warm. What's that all about? Levels. What is that about? I get the little sachets, you know, the ones you put in the gloves, obviously.

They're quite good just to keep your hands warm. I was never this bad when I was a player. I think it's all he is running around in the cold, and now it's coming back to bite me. Tommy Smith, your thoughts on these contractions. I'll be honest with you. I just thought I'd let Jobby. I was an introduction there.

I've been dying to jump in because, you know,

I think he's definitely been tipped off by our producer as on last night, right? I was going to jump in and say, this is how the other half live as. He was in the studio, full selection of snacks. He's even saying he was that hot. And me and you were out at games in the freezing cold. I was at Wrexham's game last night in the wind, the rain with a bovril

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