72+ EFL Pod: Inside Hull’s promotion & Spygate drama
Football Daily
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4.3 • 4.6K Ratings
🗓️ 26 May 2026
⏱️ 52 minutes
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Summary
Hull City assistant Dean Holden joins Aaron Paul, Jobi McAnuff & Bromley boss Andy Woodman as they react to the EFL play-off finals. Plus hear from Steven Schumacher, Dave Challinor, Martin Paterson and Karl Robinson. Messages and voicenotes always welcome on WhatsApp to 08000 289 369.
01:15 How’s Bromley prep for League One going? 02:15 Hull City assistant Dean Holden joins the pod, 08:25 How Hull did it even with a transfer embargo, 10:35 Coming through Spygate & late change in opponent, 14:15 Working with ‘old-school’ Sergej Jakirović, 18:45 What does summer look like for Hull City? 21:15 Middlesbrough’s Wembley curse continues, 26:50 Bolton’s Steven Schumacher, 32:05 Stockport’s Dave Challinor, 34:40 Is it right for the play-off finals to have VAR? 37:30 Notts County’s Martin Paterson, 41:30 Salford’s Karl Robinson.
5 Live / BBC Sounds commentaries: Wed 2000 Crystal Palace v Rayo Vallecano in the UEFA Conference League Final, Sat 1700 PSG v Arsenal in the UEFA Champions League Final, Sun 1500 Brighton & Hove v Man City in the Women’s FA Cup Final.
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| 0:34.5 | 72 Plus, the EFL podcast with Aaron Paul and Joby McEnough. |
| 0:41.7 | Hello everybody. |
| 0:43.2 | Welcome along to 72 Plus, the home of the EFL from Five Life Sport on the football |
| 0:47.6 | daily as we come to the conclusion of another remarkable EFL season. |
| 0:53.5 | Whole City, Baltimore Wanderers and Knottts County, all victorious in the playoffs at a magical weekend at Wembley. The final ball has been kicked, and now it's time for the final word on the Football League in 2025-26. As ever, joining me in ever-present. You're not really an ever-present this season, but you know what I mean. |
| 1:11.6 | Jobby McEnough is with us. |
| 1:13.1 | How are you, Jobes? |
| 1:13.9 | What do you mean I'm not an ever-present, mate? You've missed loads of shows. Oh, come on. You know me, I don't miss them. I'm here. Wherever the weather. The last part of the season, basically, Sam, I'm a part-timer. |
| 1:25.0 | You're not a part-timer. |
| 1:26.2 | It's not an ever present. |
| 1:27.5 | They've had fitness issues in places. |
| 1:29.9 | It's the age, mate. |
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