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72 plus the EFL podcast with Aaron Paul. Hello everybody. Welcome on to 72 plus the

EFL pod from Five Live Sport. No Joby Mac in up this week after his audition last week to take my

gig. How was it, Lowe? I thoroughly enjoyed it. We did miss you in your dulcet terms. Stop flirting with me. If Joby McEnuff is my right arm, don't know what that makes, Lyle Taylor. Probably like my tight calf or something like that. Great to have you with us, LT. Also with us, the former Huddersfield and Middlesbrough defender, Tommy Smith. Smudge, new job since we last week. Congratulations. New loans boss at the borough. Thank you ever so much. I'm just a bit concerned, though. If Lyles, your tight calf, what on earth am I? The dodgy hammy. Oh, wow. Okay, right. Okay. Moving on. on no thank you very much as i appreciate that yeah new

job new uh new role for myself thoroughly enjoying it and a good time for the football couple of the

minute second in the league so can't complain welcome to the world of um of doing random hours on the road

i mean you and i have had conversations about potato-based snacks maze based snacks but you snacks. But you have an affinity to a certain chocolate bar, don't you? I do at the minute, yeah. Probably a bit of a rogue one, if we're being honest. It's a yorky biscuit and raisin. Can't go wrong. Very, very good snack for travelling home after midweek games. midweek games. Yeah, do you know what?

I could have one of them right now, actually. I'm a solid skips, man. I love a bag of skips. That's my... I can't do raisins. Really? Raisins, sultana's not for me. Oh, that's a shame. You're missing out. It's the biscuit and the raisin. Yeah, it's the mix. It's the combo. No, I like chocolate with nuts in it

You do, to be fair

You do

Tommy, I mean look

You're putting in the hard Yeah, it's the mix, it's the combo. No, I like chocolate with nuts in it. You do, to be fair.

You do.

Tommy, I mean, look, you're putting in the hard yards right now. What's the plan? Do you want to stay in something like this? Do you want to move into like a sporting director, technical director? What's the end goal? The end goal, sorry. Well, for the here and now, as it's about just learning on the job, really.

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